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[–] BluJay320@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Not a fan, and I don’t like his relative lack of political experience. However, his status as a white male veteran who is the husband of Gabby Gifford could win some points.

Hate that it comes to that, but this is what we get. Fuck, I just want out of this shithole.

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The military background shuts up a lot. As it should.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I'm sure John Kerry remembers the value of military service.

[–] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Yeah, and I don’t know that Drumpf fans care all that much about military service. Well, at least they don’t care what Drumpf says.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

He was running against someone who also had vaguely credible military service, so there was room to discredit without blowback

It's harder to nitpick a military record when running a draft dodger as your candidate. Given that the GOP is "supposed" to be law and order, it should provide some challenge for them to be running a draft dodging felon against a prosecutor and ex-military ticket.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 months ago

His opponent's service was literally draft dodging. For the war Kerry was honored and injured in. We're not talking about someone with a better service record dismissing some lesser record as insubstantial.

That people were making fun of an actual combat injury, regardless of whether his opponent did some air drills back at home, proves that military service isn't some sacred trait. And John Kerry didn't just serve, he was an actual war hero who saved people's lives and took a bullet in the process. Nothing either Kelly or Vance has done remotely compares to that and he was eviscerated for the very thing that's supposed to be such a gotcha for the Republicans.

[–] snownyte@kbin.run -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

How's that going to help anything? Right now, we're looking for solutions to improve our society through progressive means. Fighting wars is not the answer regardless if formerly served or actively served.

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

It's about perception. I'm not saying to go fight wars. But military leaders have the respect of those that could lean right. It's always about the middle. The left and the right are set. It's the centrists that make a vote happen.