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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Its a shame for Thiel, that insulation via wealth only goes so far. Once oppression has been codified into law, and most of the streets have been sterilized of "undesirables", the machine will drink its own juice and come for him, too.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Its a shame for Thiel, that insulation via wealth only goes so far.

"You'll get yours in the end" is a prophecy liberals make endless, while plutocrats continue to ignore it without real consequence.

Once oppression has been codified into law

Laws Are For Little People. My man Elon Musk should be serving a thousand year consecutive life sentence for the endless string of SEC violations, financial frauds, drug abuses, and sexual assaults he's committed in the last five years alone. Donald Trump should be on death row. None of these assholes actually get prosecuted for any of this shit, precisely because they're insulated through their wealth and social connections.

JD Vance isn't going to try and throw his sugar daddy under the bus, particularly when Thiel's fortune is based around his enormous government contracts for mass surveillance via Palantir. It would be just shy of trying to pick a fight with Eric Prince (America's premiere international warlord for hire) or Gregory Hayes (CEO of Raytheon, the company that makes all the high performance missiles, rockets, and smart bombs).

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm sure Ernst Röhm thought the same thing. Inevitably, the alliance of convenience runs its course and the fascists decide it's easier if they're dead.

Dead men can't hire lawyers to defend their stock portfolios, after all.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I’m sure Ernst Röhm thought the same thing

If you need to go back 90 years to make a point, it might be a weak one.

Reagan had gay members of his administration while he joked about the AIDS epidemic.

Nixon had gay men in his administration, a fact he complained about on tape.

Hoover crossdressed as head of the FBI, and he was at the heart of a fascist white terror during the 1950s.

It's strongly believed that James Buchanan was in a relationship with Senator Rufus King, while President.

Reactionary attitudes towards sex did not seem to affect any of these economic elites.

[–] hglman@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

Elites do fall they are often just replaced with new ones but its absolutely plausible the snake eats him

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is real life, anything could happen. The rich get fucked just as much as they get away. There will be no warning. Even for those like Thiel if Project 2025 was fully implemented. He would automatically be branded a pedophile and receive the death penalty. Don't think they wouldn't be quick to consume each other. The vacuum of power would be ripe for anyone remaining. We're getting to the point where the greedy must devour each other to grow.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The rich get fucked just as much as they get away.

The rich get fucked way less than what they get away with. That's why you've got prisons overflowing with low-income felons while everyone from Donald Trump to OJ Simpson seem immune to prosecution.

Even for those like Thiel if Project 2025 was fully implemented.

A big facet of 2025 is the way it immunizes members of the political elite from the policing they intend to inflict on everyone else. The "Freedom Cities" (often referred to as Charter Cities in other libertarian wet-dream proposals) revolve around granting dictatorial control in municipal districts to a handful of powerful property owners, fully exempt from a normal democratic process. The police, the judges, the prosecutors - they're all just employees of these oligarchs. In the same way that a CEO isn't threatened by the HR department, a guy like Thiel granted his own private fief through a California "Freedom City" charter would be immune to whatever anti-LGBTQ proposal Mike Johnson cooked up in the House.

The vacuum of power would be ripe for anyone remaining.

The vacuum is being filled by these techbros.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Getting fucked does not mean going to prison. Getting fucked for rich people is when a meme tanks your stock 50%. The reason they're trying to codify this is so they dont ever get fucked again.

In this hypothetical (we hope) future, where being LGBTQ+ brands you as a pedophile and serves you the death sentence, the populace will become angry with the fact they are ruled by "one of them" and question why this is so.

Laws, after all, are not physically existing things. The law can say Thiel is fine on his fiefdom of lower SoCal. But it won't stop the head dictator from feeling like sending his gay crusher squad to all of Thiel's addresses in one night. And the only thing needed to make that decision happen is the swinging mood of the orange.

[–] InternetUser2012@lemmy.today 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Just keep in mind, there's a shit ton of republikkklowns that are closet gays. They just use it as more outrage because scared idiots eat it up and join the cult.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It doesnt matter. They'll march us off the cliff over coming out. Which is also a shame. I may have been depressed, but I have come to terms with who and what I am and can be content with it. I couldn't imagine rejecting yourself to such an extent. It has to cause serious mental harm.

[–] fritobugger2017@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Wealth allows mobility. He can flee to the EU or Canada easily.

[–] hanrahan 2 points 1 month ago

He's got a huge bug out property in New Zealand I think ?

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

or at the very least he will be spending so much on bribes to keep himself out of a prison that he'll eventually run out of cash.