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Why is Linux so frustrating for some people? (lemmy.ml)
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Don't get me wrong. I love Linux and FOSS. I have been using and installing distros on my own since I was 12. Now that I'm working in tech-related positions, after the Reddit migration happened, etc. I recovered my interest in all the Linux environment. I use Ubuntu as my main operating system in my Desktop, but I always end up feeling very limited. There's always software I can't use properly (and not just Windows stuff), some stuff badly configured with weird error messages... last time I was not able to even use the apt command. Sometimes I lack time and energy for troubleshooting and sometimes I just fail at it.

I usually end up in need of redoing a fresh install until it breaks up again. Maybe Linux is not good for beginners working full time? Maybe we should do something like that Cisco course that teaches you the basic commands?

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[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Lots of things don't have a GUI, if we expect users to eat up the CLI, the year of the Linux desktop will never come.

[–] ScreaminOctopus@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Idk if this is really true, I don't what situations you need to use the command line in Ubuntu or Fedora that would affect more than 10% of users max. You install packages through the store, wifi can be managed through the gui, external drives mount automatically. Imo this should cover the use case for almost everyone.

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Things you can't do with a GUI:

  • you can't manage advanced power management profiles
  • you can't manage devices
  • you can't manage services
  • you can't manage firewall in GNOME
  • Device Security is almost useless
  • There's no versioned backup system that does both user files & system snapshots integrated into the Desktop Environment and the DE settings app.
  • There's no DCONF equivalent for KDE (that I know of), the need for DCONF shouldn't even exist.
  • No integrated, easy to use & performant remote desktop software (VNC is not enough, RDP in GNOME just doesn't work, Sunshine is a pain to setup)

I'm an Arch user, so I'll talk about it below:

  • There's no real GUI for Pacman, Pamac is known for horrible stuff. Alternatives are very inferior.
  • There's no GUI for system updates integrated into the settings app

3rd party crap:

  • Nvidia (nuff said)
  • Flatpak (convenient, but it's still a mess)

Props to:

  • AMD, I love you guys.
[–] ScreaminOctopus@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

The firewall thing is definitely a major oversight.

[–] flashgnash@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I think gnome is almost there tbh, has all the things you'd expect of a normal computer

Can't be expected to go full windows where literally every little buried system feature has a GUI on it

Think anyone who wants to use Linux for their non-techy day to day for the most part can now, I think only problem is with moderately techy people who want to do weird stuff with their machines but don't know Linux well enough