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[–] Wirlocke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 36 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

"Democracy is the worst system of government, except for all the others"

I still can't find a way to disprove this statement. Popular vote inherently favors the majority as opposed to minorities and only cares about charisma. And yet, nothing else seems to beat it.

The only one I could think of is putting in a guy/AI that's really benevolent and competent this time guys I pinky swear.

[–] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I could see an AI being up to the task. At least with such an artificial system, you can hard-code guardrails and a constitution that a parliament can agree upon.

Of course, I wouldn't want current LLM-based AI anywhere near the reigns of power. Such a system would need to have proven itself secure and incorruptible over decades before we put it in power.

[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm still rooting for benevolent aliens stepping in, telling humanity it's not capable of self care, and forcing us to clean up the planet so we can live on it as a wildlife preserve.

[–] ClockworkOtter@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

But how are the aliens governed?

In my fantasy, they're Star Trek style space communists as they're more than intelligent enough to make rational decisions.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago

I could see an AI being up to the task.

There are no such things as AIs, but other than that, sure!

At least with such an artificial system, you can hard-code guardrails and a constitution that a parliament can agree upon.

You can bake in biases that you don't even know are biases, which hands power to a certain group, and then that group refuses to fix the "AI" because doing so would reduce their power.

I don't think anybody who works with computers would suggest that a computer be put in charge. It seems mostly to be the idea from people who only look at computers from afar and see them as these logical, unbiased oracles, which they're not.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago

You forgot the most important part of that quote (that's not actually a quote).

[–] rivvvver@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

what about consensus systems? instead of going for a majority, u discuss different solutions until everyone is satisfied or at least ok with the proposed plan

[–] Wirlocke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Kinda what congress is right now because of filibusters; and like congress they would be paralyzed and ineffective once there's some polarity.

[–] rivvvver@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago

i mean, good point. so what if u have a vote to kick someone for stalling or filibustering?