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He'll Be Fine (lemmy.world)

submitted 4 months ago by homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world to c/progressivepolitics@lemmy.world

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[–] Pronell@lemmy.world 59 points 4 months ago (4 children)

A Trump administration will jail opponents, accelerate oil and gas drilling, and help to destroy the world that much faster.

We don't have any chance to improve things if they win one more time.

Want a better world? It might be possible to still build one. You can't look at Joe Biden and say "Eh, not good enough."

If his plans aren't enough for your tastes, organize and do better. Inspire others around you.

It's not gonna be easy, and it might not even be possible. But each person who just gives up makes it that much harder for everyone else.

Me, I'm 50. I don't have a ton of hope. But I'd like to still have a chance to leave a world to another generation that isn't completely overrun by fascism.

Brazil pushed back. So did France and the UK. We CANNOT just give up.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 13 points 4 months ago

Ah alright, for some reason when I read the comment I wasn't sure who you meant represented which. I'm not American but I'm definitely with you.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 2 points 4 months ago

Brazil and France pushed back like we pushed back in 2020.

Republicans learned what stopped them and installed people/will install people who will make sure we cannot rebuke them again. The DNC only learns the lessons they want to learn like "incumbent presidents should be run again" and ignore lessons like "the polls are fucking horrible and we literally need a massive lead in polls just for us to squeak by in the general election." Because every fucking election is like that... Nice leads in the polls and the outcome turns out horrible...

[–] Riccosuave@lemmy.world -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

We aren't giving up. It was the DNC that gave up. Start putting the blame squarely where it belongs.

[–] Pronell@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Okay. I blame you.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Blaming those with the least power for not bending the knee to the "leader" the powerfull have imposed on them instead of blaming those with the most power for not putting forward somebody worthy of the loyalty of the rest is a pretty interesting take for somebody posting in a supposedly Progressive forum.

[–] Pronell@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

It's been four years and nobody stepped up.

Nobody said they wanted to be the successor. They didn't build a campaign and start doing press tours.

We have No Labels and Brain Worms. That's it. The progressives did not try to field a candidate, and now you're saying there's a boot on your neck.

Either fight or keep complaining. Bitching online is not progressive.

I'm trying to wake some of you up to the reality that we need to be united and getting a shitload of 'Meh, whatever.'

Extremely hard to believe thats your progressive take.

[+] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee -10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Edit: There’s some legalese that the DNC is shook about, so fair enough to be worried about Republicans and election shenanigans.

~~If his plans aren't enough for your tastes, organize and do better. Inspire others around you.~~

~~This would be a valid point, if the DNC wasn’t trying to force a primary confirmation vote early, in order to ‘lock in’ Biden. Despite Biden welcoming challengers to make a play to delegates at the convention.~~

~~I.e. “actively prevented from doing so”~~

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Wait, I thought the DNC wanted him to give up

[–] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

Might be irrelevant given the latest on Biden dropping maybe, but this is still the official line:_

"no voting will begin before August 1." They add that the vote is set to happen before the in-person Democratic National Convention that starts Aug. 19

They’ve now explained the nuance and reasoning, which does change things a fair bit

In June, Ohio passed a bill to move its deadline from Aug. 7 to Sept. 1. But because that law technically does not take effect until Sept. 1, the DNC said they are keeping their timeline of a pre-convention virtual roll call in place due to concern of litigation. Republican Secretary of State Frank LaRose suggested earlier this month that Sept. 1 deadline to certify a candidate would stand.