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I would for vote Kamala. I would vote for a cactus with sunglasses if it had the Democratic nomination. You would do yourself well to consider anything that is weaking the resolve of the anti-trump sentiment straight poison to your brain. We have only one job this novemeber and that is to stop trump. The Supreme Court has given him the status of king. Quit acting like your vote is sacred and start realizing your vote is your final cry before your rights are forfeited.

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[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Right but now compare that to 2020 disparity between candidates while keeping in mind Biden only won by 40,000 votes in 3 battleground states.

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Doesn't seem too far off. Maybe about 5-6% worse than july 2020.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And additionally 10 points down nationally from where Biden was in h2h polling when comparing 538 polling aggregates.

Whats worse between 2020 and 2024 is that Biden has had 3.5 years to prove himself, give the Americans a chance, and he still had terrible approval ratings. These numbers are likely baked in because the electorate is very familiar with both candidates.

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Aren't the 10% pretty moot, since it's a two party system?

Wait two weeks and we can talk again, because we're now at the time frame the trend for the final run will be set.

BTW, I have tagged you as "Both Sides Don't vote" for a while now.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I think it matters because Democrats must outperform Republicans nationally in popular vote in order to have any chance at an Electoral College victory. On the eve of 2020 election, Biden was up 8% over Trump, won by 7 million votes, and yet ultimately only won by 40,000 critical votes in 3 battleground states largely decided by low-info swing voters who once voted for Obama, then Trump, and then Biden again. Thus, if he's now down 3-6 points and not up 8 pts, that portends a sweeping Electoral defeat.

I guess we shall see for better or worse.

And honestly, what does that tag mean? I've never promoted BotH sIDeS and I've never advocated for anyone to not vote or vote 3rd party. Cite me otherwise. Good luck. Because I think you may be missing the nuance and forging a strawman out of my position.