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This is insane pressure on Biden to step down. I hope it gets through to him. I dread to think of what happens with such division in the party going into the nomination process.
Depends:
Biden on the ballot? We have a chance, albeit slim thanks to all the hand-wringing making people stay home (remember, that's what the cons want)
Biden off the ballot? FAILED EVERY OTHER TIME, SO WHAT'RE WE THINKING?!?
Perfect doesn't exist except in the doubts of Good Enough.
I would not call it “insane” pressure.
Prominent sitting congressmembers publicly asking for the presumptive nominee and incumbent president to step down is... very outside of the norm. It is an incredible and unprecedented pressure.
The norm sucks. The fucking norm got us into this mess by discouraging people from primarying a sitting president. If we'd had a robust primary we'd either be fully on board with Biden or we'd have dropped him already.
Fuck norm. He was like the worst character on Cheers.
Thems fighting words
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3LMSflEN54
Ha, I wanted a Cheers reference and so I dropped that one but it also did cause me pain. Norm is exceedingly chill.
Not enough hyperbole dude. I don't have time to do the research, but its not clear to me that a situation where the incumbent president and presumptive nominee is being asked to step down by effectively ALL of the rest of party leadership, with only the fringe block (progressives) maintaining support.
I think i can recall a vaguely similar situation with maybe Grover Cleveland and the mugwumps? And iirc that was all about currency (gold vs silver vs fiat vs a historical aside: land based currency; worth reading on)..
Insane pressure to me would be party leaders of House and Senate, former Presidents of the same party, united cabinet members or close family members simultaneously saying it is time to go. ☎️ My call is that Obama will have to be the bad guy on this one though.☎️
Obama has called. Pelosi has called. Schiff has called. How far you gonna pedal these goal posts?
Nobody gives a shit about Pelosi, she should have quit in the last decade.
I don’t think Obama has showed up yet to walk him out of the room holding his hand. That is what I am talking about.
idk if you've been following the Republican convention, but needless to say, they appear to be very..
"energized"
The democrats need a massive shot in the arm to even have a shot at this point, replacing Biden or naught. The assassination attempt provided a kind of rallying cry for MAGA/ Trumpers that polling won't capture. Polling is good at capturing the distribution of demographics, but what it misses is how "activated" those demographics are. And boy-howdy, do Trumps key demographics seem activated. Possibly the most activated they've ever been, maybe even more-so than post 2020/J6.
If things don't change massively, and even then, its a super difficult path for Democrats to come back from the situation that Blue MAGA has set up.
Maybe the AOC/ Bernie triangulation is setting up for throwing AOC onto the platform?
Harris/ AOC and the entire platform is: Women liberty and freedom of choice is our focus. If you elect us, our entire focus will be a constitutional amendment supporting a woman's right to choose. Harris can activate the African American community. Women & the African American community to get NC & GA (maybe?). Let Harris or AOC put out better rhetoric on Gaza and WI/ MI/ MN can be back in play?
Like they've got to activate a/ any demographic and make this campaign about SOMETHING, because right now, it looks like the Democrats are stumbling into something similar to this:
Lolwat
There have been some signficant and I think legitimate concerns that if any one but Harris replaces Biden, African Americans, specificially African American women will see this her VP pick as having been purely performative, when its widely acknowledged that Africian American women, specifically, helped deliver Biden the white house.
I think its a legitimate concern and I have no problem with Harris as candidate. Literally any one has a better shot than Joe Biden at this point. Editorially, I think a double woman progressive ticket could be the thing that gets the car back on the road, but I truly do not give a shit. I don't care if its Andy Beshear. Anyone and everyone would be doing better than Joe Biden is currently.
We need Arnold Swartzeneger as VP
He can't I don't think, you have to be born in the US to be pres right?
Are they really going to impeach Arnold?
Wat
No worries there. No matter who would replace Biden, past attempts show it's guaranteed failure.
Swap Biden and a loss is assured.
Is it though? How are you so assured?
It's her Stand
Biden has Blue MAGA and Harris has the African American Community
Once they activate their Stands it is over for whatever this guy is trying to sell
The shit you people invent.
Is this African American community in the room with us right now?
I think y'all over state ability of ex federal prosecutor to resonate with the black community. Kinda tone deaf tbh
Lol I was kidding. A Stand is from JoJo's bizarre adventure