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From a hotel in Kyoto to a sandwich joint in Edinburgh, the world is becoming hostile toward Israelis who are learning that a vacation won't shield them from the Gaza war.

During the nine months of war the Israeli tourist experience abroad has been marked by fears of antisemitism and efforts to avoid pro-Palestinian demonstrations.

According to reports by Israeli media and posts online, some of those worries have recently turned real for a number of Israeli tourists.Anecdotal incidents at touristic locations around the world are making it clear that even though there is no official policy of excluding Israelis, that is sometimes the situation on the ground.

An especially bumpy week began on June 17 at the Material Hotel in Kyoto, Japan, when an Israeli named Alex was informed that his reservation had been canceled due to the allegations of Israeli war crimes in Gaza. The Material told Alex that it was "not able to accept reservations from persons we believe might have ties to the Israeli army," as reported by Israeli website Ynet.

The story made the rounds on social media, produced a stern protest letter from Israel's ambassador in Tokyo, and led to a rebuke by the Kyoto municipality that the hotel had breached Japanese business law and must ensure that such a transgression won't happen again.

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[–] ImADifferentBird@lemmy.blahaj.zone 55 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Sounds a lot like what Americans faced when Bush attacked Iraq. And just as justified (ie not unjustified, but perhaps taken to extremes).

Israelis: Your government has made your nation a pariah. You are the people best positioned to change that. Get those motherfuckers out of office.

[–] ytg@sopuli.xyz 7 points 4 months ago

Israelis: Your government has made your nation a pariah. You are the people best positioned to change that. Get those motherfuckers out of office.

They're trying... but for some inside perspective: the atmosphere feels somewhat oppressive. All mainstream media (except for this same Haaretz newspaper) get their info directly from the IDF, not considering other sources. And the right's decades-long campaign to convince the majority of the populace that peace is impossible seems to be working (it's a really complicated situation, made worse by people who actively want to make it worse). Compound that with the police becoming increasingly politicized (not that they weren't discriminatory at all before), and you get a recipe for just a mess. You would just as well be asking why Russians haven't got rid of Putin, Hungarians of Orbán, etc.
And despite that, there are protests. There are demonstrations. But dear Netanyahu doesn't want to call an election. One can only hope that his coalition collapses over internal issues (look up: conscription of ultra-orthodox Jews, a hostages-for-ceasefire deal), though that is unlikely.

And this is even more horrible when you consider that Netanyahu's policy of strengthening Hamas and weakening the PA/PLO, in order to lessen the chance of peace and, in his view, better Israel's security, has led to the country actually losing territory for the first time in decades! Israelis would literally be safer if the Oslo accords had continued, to actual peace. But good luck convincing them (even those who oppose the current government) of that after years of right-wing government which made it seem impossible.

I want to stress that I don't think your average Israeli citizen is an evil person. Not even your average IDF soldier (except those that actually call the shots). They believe that what they're doing is necessary, because of (justified) anger at the 7th of October events, as well as the incredible success of the right in general to move the political climate in its direction. Might this be stupid? It might, but there are consequences for falling out of line (especially in the army, as you might imagine). That hasn't stopped some admittedly brave people from doing it.

We've already seen that Netanyahu doesn't care about protests; those are perpetual in Israel. He will only resign if he is absolutely convinced that it is better for his personal well-being to do that (currently, he doesn't. He's on trial for corruption).

[–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The people themselves migrated there and are direct actors inthe ethnic cleansing

[–] Iceblade02@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That is simply incorrect. Most Israeli citizens were born in Israel

[–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago

That is also true but look up "Aliya".

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

At least in the UK a lot of this was irritation that, yet again, our country was being drawn into a war that had nothing to do with us. It wasn't aimed at individuals (although certain people decided to take it like that), it was the American government that we were annoyed with.

Everyone knows being rude to Americans is bad for mental health, because they're the only group that will complain about it. For ages.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Why though? We're nice people we swear! Everyone says we're the nicest. Nice people just can't get ahead in this world without people being rude to them.

(luckily I have ADHD, so ages ends.....now.)

[–] Fades@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Many of them want to vote these bastards out, but they didn't succeed so fuck em all? Pretty intense absolutism ya got there.

nondescripthandle made an excellent comment along these same lines: https://alexandrite.app/lemmy.world/comment/11202637

[–] ImADifferentBird@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

You're putting words in my mouth. I never said fuck 'em. I said keep fighting.