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[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Which of the recent chemical spills have been on federally owned rail?

[–] Liz@midwest.social 8 points 4 months ago

I hate it when Amtrak dumps hazardous waste everywhere!

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world -4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

None as far as I'm aware. The point is they make a profit so they have the same reason to avoid being regulated well enough.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

None as far as I'm aware

Wow, I guess that kind of makes that a totally irrelevant derailing of this post about chemical spills on railways.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The chemical spills are because of lack of regulation. Agreed?

That lack of regulation is because of for profit companies going as cheap as possible to make more money. Agreed?

The federal government owns a for profit passenger line that is comparatively large to other private passenger lines in the us. Agreed?

The federal government has a hand in regulating the same rails it has a stake in. Agreed?

So how exactly are these things not relevant in relation to chemical spills due to lack of regulation.... Like what?

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sorry, “the government runs some passenger lines so it’s the government’s fault that private companies on privately owned rail regularly create environmental disasters” doesn’t check out.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

With regulation being a federal issue yes. How is that a leap?

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

They’re federally mandated to run a profit. It’s actually a problem just not the one you think

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No that's exactly the problem I think it is. If they're mandated to turn a profit the federal government then has a perverse incentive to have weak regulation that allows greater profit margins.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No the problem as it manifests isn’t reduced regulation but basically zero service outside the northeastern corridor

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

As far as I'm aware both the recent large accidents were due to lack of maintenance due to lack of regulation spurred by greed and costing lives.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

As far as I’m aware the recent accidents weren’t Amtrak

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

You're being obtuse.