People who identify themselves as neurodivergent typically have one or more of the conditions or disorders listed below. However, since there aren’t any medical criteria or definitions of what it means to be neurodivergent, other conditions also can fall under this term as well. People with these conditions may also choose not to identify themselves as neurodivergent.

Autism spectrum disorder (this includes what was once known as Asperger’s syndrome).

Attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD). [...]

I think, as someone who was diagnosed with ADD when young and Asperger's in my 20's, the term applies. But I'd much rather be called Neurodivergent than other labels, if I had to pick one.

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[–] Mummelpuffin@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

To me, my idea of neurodivergence is that it's a more neutral term what we'd typically call neurodevelopmental disorders, and could potentially be extended to personality disorders. Neurodivergent people are those with (typically) lifelong differences in brain function. I think it's a helpful concept at times but I also think it's far too vague and more specific diagnoses exist for a reason.

I'm torn on including personality disorders because on one hand, they feel more squarely problematic (particularly as someone whose mother is Borderline), but on the other, it's possible that "feeling squarely problematic" is influenced a whole lot by culture and personal opinion. I've experienced being judged by other people's shitty personal opinions too often to feel comfortable doing it with other people.

[–] Subito@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I completely see where you're coming from with the idea of including personality disorders because of that "feeling squarely problematic" definition. Drawing on some personal experience, I don't personally view myself as having a clearcut case of Asperger's because 1) it was never severe enough to be a huge problem and 2) it was diagnosed after I was already an adult, by one psychiatrist (out of many).

Saying to someone "I'm considered neurodivergent" makes more sense to me than saying "I might be on the Autism Spectrum, depending on who you ask."

Good insight!

[–] Mummelpuffin@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

...Granted, most psychiatrists are idiots when it comes to ASD. They're operating on outdated as hell info and their own biases. I've seen way too much "well gee you're holding a conversation with me, there's no way your autistic" to actually take diagnosis seriously. I was diagnosed at six years old- It was obvious then and there was a ton of intervention- If I went for a diagnosis now, oh boy.

[–] ira@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

I’ve seen way too much “well gee you’re holding a conversation with me, there’s no way your autistic”

Twice in my life I tried to start a conversation on this topic with a medical mental health professional, like "Doctor, this feels relatable, can we...", and both times the reaction was basically "we've talked for 10 minutes and that's definitely not relevant, I won't even ask you where that came from or explain why", in a way that made me feel like a bad person even for considering. And then proceeded to blame me for any follow up miscommunications... One time this was a "specialist" on the subject and I fear for any kids coming to them, they were all around a condescending patronizing asshole that could not even be on time 90% of the meetings

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