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Johnson claimed that Trump violently raped her when she was 13 at a 1994 orgy hosted by Jeffrey Epstein — the billionaire who was convicted in 2008 of soliciting an underage girl for prostitution and has been accused of having sex with more than 30 underage girls.

Johnson said Trump had sexual contact with her at four of those parties, including tying her to a bed and violently raping her in a “savage sexual attack.” The lawsuit said Johnson “loudly pleaded” with Trump to stop, but that he responded by “violently striking Plaintiff in the face with his open hand and screaming that he would do whatever he wanted.”

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[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Person 1:

Technically not an accusation, Trump lost the lawsuit to Jane Doe. When Trump denied the allegations and accused her of defrauding him, he got sued again for defamation.

Trump raped a 13 year old girl.

Person 2:

Aren’t those different cases?

You:

Sure, the guy who says his friend likes girls on the younger side and that they are okay with it deserves the benefit of the doubt. Excuse me while I throw up.

The person 2 wasn't even giving the benefit of the doubt, they were just confused about what case the earlier person was talking about (likely because Trump didn't lose the mentioned Jane Doe case)

Person 3:

This particular case is, technically, an accusation, though. Even if we’re all just about certain that it’s true.

You:

Sure, I heard he totally respects women’s rights. He would be never think of purposely walking in on a young girl changing… Ohh wait

Person 3:

Did you even read what I said? I agree with you there. But technically, and I’m only bringing this up because you originally did, it is an accusation.

I think here Person 3 thought you were Person 1 who originally said the "technically not an accusation" thing.

You:

Suuuure, I am just calling bullshit on it. You are okay, even if your playing devils advocate to a rapist.

That's when I commented. I really don't know how this looks to you (and it gets worse from there) but nobody was playing devil's advocate, nobody was giving benefit of the doubt even, there was no rape apologia. I'm not sure if it was meant to be a joke on your part but it just seems like you misinterpreted what was being said and flew off the handle.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I guess Sarcasm really is above some people. I never disputed what they said no matter how hard you want to twist this narrative.

I just answered their pondering with sarcasm because of how ridiculous this whole thing is.

You must be on the spectrum to push this hard on me being snarky.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I guess Sarcasm really is above some people. I never disputed what they said no matter how hard you want to twist this narrative.

Everyone knew it was sarcasm but why you decided to start all sarcastic about it.

I just answered their pondering with sarcasm because of how ridiculous this whole thing is.

What was ridiculous about it, in your mind?

You must be on the spectrum to push this hard on me being snarky.

I don't think they take that kind of comments well here. I don't mind but just a heads up.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Classic overreact to my overreaction.

I would have probably just pissed off after venting a couple times about the ridiculousness of arguing legal semantics in a case involving one of the most prolific serial rapists of our time.

How tone-deaf it looks... but you all haven't experienced rape firsthand. You don't have daughters who have been raped.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

You think the difference between someone losing a case and the case against them being dismissed/dropped is legal semantics..? Not to mention, the first person was just wondering what case it was they said Trump lost...

[–] FluorideMind@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Holy shit this doomrider guy is dumb af. Stop wasting your time with him.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

You're right, I should've stopped a while ago

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

Also just to absolutely clarify to everyone, when you said they are "playing devils advocate to a rapist" and called me "rape apologist" and so on, was that also sarcasm?