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I get it, Biden is old and that's a problem, but why doesn't anyone seem to have a problem with the fact that Trump is almost the same age, has 34 felonies, raped at least 2 women, went to Epstein's Island 11 times, sexualized his own daughter, stole classified documents, aligned himself with Xi and Putin, and can't remember common names?

Is all of that really better than being 2½ years older than he is right now?

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[–] nednobbins@lemm.ee 28 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The people calling for Biden to drop out are completely different from the people who want Trump to stay in the race.

Democrats want Biden to drop out because they don't believe he can beat Trump.

Republicans want Trump to stay on the ticket because they're pretty sure he'll crush Biden .

[–] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Democrats want Biden to drop out because they don't believe he can beat Trump.

To this point: for those who think that, do they think anyone else realistically could, at this point, other than Biden?

While I'm not thrilled with his chances, I will say that if he wasn't to be the nominee, that decision needed to happen in 2021. At this point, I do believe that statistically, he's got better odds than anyone else, so regardless of his debate or mental state, he's our guy.

[–] TeenieBopper@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

To this point: for those who think that, do they think anyone else realistically could, at this point, other than Biden?

Literally anyone born after 1975.

Look, 45% of people are going to vote for the name on the D line no matter who it is. 45% of people are going to vote for the name on the R line no matter what. That last 10% is who you want to win over. And like, they're tired of both of them. But Biden is the dude in office right now, so they're gonna vote for the other one.

All Biden has to do is say "after some reflection, you're right. I cannot serve at my best capacity. I'm going to step aside for the good of party and country," and then they nominate literally anyone under 50. Hardcore democrats are going to vote for whoever is on that line, and middle America is going to see that and be like "that's the honorable thing to do. I respect that. And I may not know who this new person is, but they're not Trump" so democrats still have that tired platform without any of the baggage. They would cruise to retaining the presidency.

[–] nednobbins@lemm.ee 6 points 4 months ago

do they think anyone else realistically could, at this point, other than Biden?

The answer to that is clearly, "Yes." The calls for him to bow out are coming from all corners; various mainstream media outlets, donor groups, alternative media, pundits, and even sitting Democratic politicians.

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 2 points 4 months ago

Anyone still planning on voting Biden at this point can only justify it on the basis he's not Trump, and wouldn't decide not to vote without Biden on the ticket

A quality he shares with every other American with the exception of Trump himself.

The democrats only stand to gain votes by swapping him out. 75% of democrats would prefer a different candidate.

[–] Soulg@sh.itjust.works -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This is how I feel too. The debate lowered the chances, but it's far too late to just shove someone else in.

[–] hydrospanner@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

Lemmy doesn't want to hear it, but you're correct.