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But did you guys hear that Joe Biden is old??!?!?
He also has my bed time, I'm 30 yrs younger than him
clearly the candidates are exactly the same so we should not vote in the election
iknowright! I also hear him fuck up big time in a debate once. ClEaRLy TrUmP iS tHe bEtTEr cHOicE!
If you want to bring Joe into this, his own daughter says he showered with her at an old age... So I would care more about an actual accusation as opposed to a random lawsuit in believing biden is worse on this one.
You're saying there have been no actual accusations against trump?
There have been accusations, but the biden accusations seem a hell of a lot more credible.
I tried to look up these accusations from Biden's daughter but with no success. Do you have any links? Also, if you're claim that these accusations do exist is true, what makes it more credible to you? How is one woman's word any less credible than another's?
They are more credible because they were in his daughters diary which people were never supposed to see. Here is a show talking about it if you wish. Also the other lady that he allegedly raped had her mother call Larry King live waaaay back then talking about it. The Trump ones just seem like women wanting attention, and the lady that got the judgement against him is legit crazy.
I appreciate the follow up link, I will be looking out for more info on that. However, I think you are biased when it comes hearing and believing accusations about sexual abuse from women. Unfortunately for both the accusations against Trump and Biden, we have little more than the women's words, but you choose to find one more credible than the other because "the Trump ones seem like women wanting attention". It is sentiments such as those that will continue to allow sexual abusers get away with their actions.
No, the accusation about Biden was not intended to be known and the other one was not disclosed till years later and was collaborated by a video. The accusations about trump seem to be about the benefit of the accusers and by a crazy person. These are completely different types of accusations, you pretending like they are the same is the part that is biased.
How many times has bidens name come up along side of Jeffery Epstein? And Trump? I'll wait for this answer...
How many times has trumps name come up in his daughters diary for showering with her? I'll wait for this answer...
https://youtu.be/DsOVVqubBus
Oh yeah, making a bad joke is the same as showering with your daughter... I literally have never showered one time with any of my children because I am not a creep. Politics turn you guys into defenders of probable pedos, hell his son calls him "Pedo Peter".
So all of the allegations extending back to the early 90's about Trump mean absolutely nothing?
Walking into dressing rooms of 15/16 year old girls. The decades of "bad jokes" of his daughters. Decades if friendship with a known pedo/human trafficker. This doesn't show his overall character?
I'm not saying Biden didn't do it but seriously? Are you unable to comprehend the shitshow that is Donald J Trump?
Do you think the 34 convictions are a bunch if bullshit? Is he your retribution? Arebyou following a false prophet? I would say yes...
Donald trump has been one of the most famous people in the world since at least the 90s so they dont mean nothing, but they require scrutiny. And again we are doing a comparison between two people where joe is objectively the one you would want to watch out for. His own son calls him "Pedo Peter" and his daughter implies he is a pedo, I really dont know why you guys are defending him.
Yes, obviously since I am paying attention.
Whoop whoop, found the cultist.
Please re read the last comment. I am NOT defending Biden.
There is a reason why the guy who doesn't know how to hold a bible is leaning hard into the Christian population. Y'all will believe any bullshit if this said with enough confidence.
Use your fucking brain dude, the wolf has dawned a sheep outfit and y'all can't see it...
Sure I am in the cult if that includes people that are not going to vote for trump...
The fact that you seem to think the guy whos kid calls him pedo peter is better than the guy with random accusations shows whos in what cult.
I'm not the one being defensive, I'm pointing out that Trump isn't a good person in general
The lesser of 2 evils, is still evil
And Trump also think Mr Pooh (see China) and Putin are great people.
As for the cult reference was because you said that ya thought the 34 convictions are BS. I don't know if ya miss understood that or not but regardless anyone who is willing to defend Trump may as well be part of his cult.
The guy can't speak in public without spouting nonsense or as he likes to say "fake news"
I never said trump is a good person, he is not. The problem with trump is that your media has built up this thing that isnt true about trump and you will go to the mat pretending things that dont exist.
And yes, the 34 convictions were BS, as well as the real estate fine that he got for hundreds of millions of dollars. I will defend anyone on any side that is wronged by the government, and if you cant see that it was unjust then you are part of the problem.
The mother fucker literally lied about the size of his real-estate (by 3x the amount) something if you or I would do would land us with massive fines if not jail time.
Do you remember when Donald was saying at rallies to lock up crooked Hillary and then live on TV said he didn't?
Seriously you are the problem, Trump will say anything that he thinks you want to hear esp if it saves his ass.
Trump University, the best education money can buy? What happened? He got unqualified teachers and stole millions from people thinking yeah we can trust Trump, He's famous!
You defended him from the beginning saying the allegation require scrutiny.
Seriously? Guy has a rap sheet so long they couldn't even fit in 10pt font on the fat fucks suit.
Anyways, I know this is pointless as you are obviously got nothing more than a wind tunnel for a brain.
No it wouldnt, its perfectly legal. Real estate is what I do, and all it is is advocating your position. The funny part is how John Stewart called out trump and it was shown he did the same thing in New York.
Did he lock up Hillary? Not sure what it matters, but I dont really trust anything politicans have to say.
So you sell places that are 11,000 sqft as 33,000 sqft?
John Stuart didn't want to sell, he asked for a crazy number and the dumbass accepted it. Not the same shit. Try again ya idiot
Trump called for Hillary to be jailed then he was asked about it then Denied it on live tv
Seriously just fuck off you are WRONG and this is just becoming stupid.
Depends on how the sqft is measure, and also all the facts are up to the bank to verify which they do for houses let alone properties with millions and millions.
And your comment about John Stewart demostrates that you dont know what the case was about... But sure, please insult me when you are talking about something you dont even understand...
[ 1) the actual market value of a property, or what someone would be willing to pay for it, 2) the property’s taxable value as assessed by a governmental agency property appraiser, and 3) documentation about a property’s value submitted to a lender for the purposes of securing a loan.
Trump got in trouble for committing fraud regarding that third category, the information the Trump Org submitted to lenders to secure loans. Among the misrepresentations, perhaps the most egregious was the “tripling of the size of the Trump Tower Penthouse,” which Judge Arthur Engoron noted in his scathing ruling was an undeniable and indefensible falsehood.](https://www.mediaite.com/opinion/ny-post-promotes-laughably-wrong-claim-from-online-troll-accusing-jon-stewart-of-fraudulently-overvaluing-his-apartment/)
Yep John Stuart is the baddie... I'm a retard and you're the smartest...
And sqft doesn't change if you measure it differently. It's a fucking building, you are just as criminal as Trump ya fuckwit
Because you don't and don't want to get caught ya think that shit is OK? Seriously FUCK YOU
Again you dont know the situation or what you can do with regards to loans. And you are paticularly belligerant, it makes me laugh.
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkVbIsAWN2lvV4KY2Ag7r52_StPjX7OAh
Know enough your a piece of shut and so are another agent that LIES ABOUT SQUARE FOOTAGE
Again, you dont actually know about the situation. Google "underwriting".
See here is where you're confused. The bank he got the underwriting form (a loan in this case) was lied to (fraud on Donalds part) about 22,000sqft of Real-estate. He should have only gotten a loan proportionate to 11,000 sqft not 33,000 sqft
Do you not understand this is FRAUD or are you fucking brain dead?
What would you do if you bought a house that is 4500 sqft and found out it really was 1500 sqft. Would you not sue the person who sold it to you? Well that what the DOJ did for the bank. Maybe you learned something today ya smarty pants
Again, you dont understand a thing and are being belligerently ignorant. That is not how underwriting works for small properties let alone multimillion dollar properties. I guess you need to google "real estate appraiser" now.
How long have you been committing fraud and are shitting your pants because a POTUS has been criminally convicted doingbwhat YOU have been doing? Humm?
How many times are you going to keep commenting when you dont know anything about the subject?
Are you a lawyer? Judge? Have you gone through the documents? Why should I trust someone whose only lone is Google this, you don't know anything.
Yeah. I can tell you're just as narcissistic as DJT or stupid enough to believe a famous person yelling WHITCH HUNT! WINDMILLS ARE KILLING WHALES, I WANT TO FUCK IVANKA, tee hee kee it our little secret!
33,000 ≠ 11,000 I don't need to understand anymore than that, he unjustly enriched himself by lying (fraud) about his assets and the size they are meaning the appraisal would be wrong therefor getting him more money than he should have been able to.
There is no grey area about measurements. How does one get this through your thick skull?
Lying to business to enrich yourself is FRAUD, just look at Elizabeth Holmes. She lied about what her blood test can do. The only difference is "Donnie didn't hurt anyone" except he did, anyone who may not have got a loan because that money went to DJT instead of someone more deserving.
The reason I am being beligerent is because you are defending a conviced (by his peers) felon, new Yorkers and a Trump appointed Judge
Oh that funny, you keep talking shit and you still dont even know what an appraiser does and what goes into underwriting. Keep on sucking up that propaganda dude, and not learning anything.
Someone who estimates the value of assets.
Oh look, I didn't even have to google it, it's something banks do so you know how much to sell your house for.... Ooohhhhh, me so smart
Seriously are you just trolling me?
Getting me to look up basic fucking words?
"Its not lying, its commercial real-estate". Maybe you should stop spouting propaganda there bud
As fun as this is, you are just going to repeat the same things over and over in ignorance and not understand the process. To think all you had to do was ask and I could have told you, but you chose the to be a dick instead. Have a great day!
Ah, good ol' blame shifting, you could have stated facts, maybe I would listen.
Fact 33,000 ≠ 11,000
Facts - Fraud - the crime of cheating somebody in order to get money or goods illegally
Next time you have a 11,000 sqft place to sell, don't inflate the square footage to 33,000 sqft
You sir, can have a fantastic day too and I hope you learn what FRAUD is...
Oh here - an act of deceiving or misrepresenting