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Neil Gaiman — the best-selling author whose work includes comic book series *The Sandman *and the novels Good Omens and American Gods — has denied sexual assault allegations made against him by two women with whom he had relationships with at the time, Tortoise Media reports.

The allegations were made during Tortoise’s four-part podcast Master: the Allegations Against Neil Gaiman, which was released Wednesday. In it, the women allege “rough and degrading sex” with the author, which the women claim was not always consensual.

One of the women, a 23-year-old named Scarlett, worked as a nanny to his child.

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[–] jeffw@lemmy.world -5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Of course we shouldn’t lock someone up based on an accusation but courts are imperfect. Many people are convicted of crimes they did not commit and other crimes are difficult to convince people on. It’s also highly unlikely Gaiman will ever go to a criminal trial over this, like so many other people who commit sexual assault. That’s why you don’t wait for a conviction to support women.

Estimates of false accusations are usually under 1 in 20. This article claims 2-10%. why would you default to that position? Again, we are not a court of law. You do not need a conviction to make up your mind.

Regardless, the evidence presented so far is more than sufficient for a conviction. In the Gaiman cases, we have multiple witnesses and contemporaneous evidence for both women. It’s not just 2 random people making claims. Why would this be a vast conspiracy of 2 women who faked contemporaneous evidence and both have multiple witnesses and physical evidence? What evidence do you have that all of their evidence is fake?

Edit: let’s go one step farther. The 2 women have witnesses and contemporaneous evidence. Gaiman made a claim that one woman had a memory disorder, which has already been proven false. Not only are you siding with the party with no evidence, you are siding with the one whose only evidence has been debunked within hours. Again, why?

[–] awesome_lowlander@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I'm all for supporting women. Give them a chance to speak out, make sure they are fairly listened to and taken seriously. You've gone a step beyond that, you've already decided guilt and innocence and proclaimed it. More, you're doing so from a position of influence (yes, as a moderator of a large community, that's what you are). This is the sort of thing that libel charges get filed for (ok, not gonna happen at our current size, but you may want to start keeping that in mind.)

Why would you default to that?

Because that's the basis of our legal bloody system! There's a thousand law professors out there who can explain it better and more eloquently than I could in a thousand years, but that's the gist of it.

You do not need a conviction to make up your mind.

That's correct. We do, however, need a conviction before stating it as fact instead of opinion.

Not only are you siding with the party with no evidence

I beg to differ. I have not sided with any party. What is it about people today that they seem unable to grasp the concept of neutrality?

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world -4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So what you’re saying is, all I need to do to get one of my exes jailed is get to know another disgruntled ex of theirs? Awesome!

This doesn't insinuate it's a lie? You're being disingenuous now lol.

[–] awesome_lowlander@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No, it does not. I have not read anything about Gaiman's case, and have absolutely no opinion on it at this point. My comment was entirely a commentary on the absurdity of your logic.

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

OJ is innocent, Cosby is innocent... cool

[–] awesome_lowlander@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Dude seriously. You're a mod, act like it.

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I won’t stop calling out misogyny just because I’m a mod. You’re stating that all these men are innocent despite mountains of evidence. Maybe instead of defending them until your last breath, you could read about the evidence?