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[–] ruse8145@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

"A walled garden is a garden enclosed by high walls, especially when this is done for horticultural rather than security purposes, although originally all gardens may have been enclosed for protection from animal or human intruders."

Agreed proton isn't this

"A closed platform, walled garden, or closed ecosystem[1][2] is a software system wherein the carrier or service provider has control over applications, content, and/or media, and restricts convenient access to non-approved applicants or content. "

Try using thunderbird and id argue proton is this

[–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Still, that seems like a combo of "comes with the territory of encrypted email" and "their software could use some major improvements". I think closed platform is closed by design.

[–] dan@upvote.au 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

comes with the territory of encrypted email

AFAIK they haven't tried to standardize their implementation, which to me implies that they're not interested in interoperability. That's unfortunate. I wouldn't want to be locked in to a vendor like that.

At least some providers do try. FastMail published the spec for their modern, stateless replacement to IMAP through the IETF as "JMAP", and built on top of existing RFCs where possible.

[–] ruse8145@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Nah, fundamentally proton uses the same encryption as everyone else, they just have a central server to exchange keys rather than one of the open servers.

[–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

As everyone else like who? Gmail doesn't do client side E2E encryption at all.