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[–] chumbalumber@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Corbyn got absolutely fucked at the election. Running as an out-and-out leftist awoke fuck all in the general electorate.

The right were more than happy to get their foot in the door with Cameron, before dragging politics in this country further and further right. Why are we so unhappy to do the same?

Also, when on earth do you think the Tories were planning on setting up a nationalised energy company, renationalising rail?

[–] DessertStorms@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Corbyn got absolutely fucked at the election.

Right, because he was obviously the one who launched the massive media smear campaign against himself, dubbing himself "unelectable" and the biggest antisemite in Britain, to ensure the wealthy are protected from the devastating thereat he posed to their avoided taxes.. 😂🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

Running as an out-and-out leftist awoke fuck all in the general electorate.

I guess hundreds of thousands of people joining the Labour party, more than ever in history (and definitely more than have ever joined the Tory party), and hundreds of thousands if not millions more becoming engaged in politics who had never before, is nothing. Or maybe it's just that you're being wilfully ignorant, or even more likely - deliberately misrepresenting reality.. 🤔

Why are we so unhappy to do the same?

Because it's not what's fucking happening, Starmers foot in the door is categorically never going to move the oveton window left (his entire purpose in politics is to position Labour so far right that real leftists aren't even in the window anymore), and you wanting to model the Labour party after what the Tories do (voting with no morals or integrity and against the interests of working and other marginalised people out of blind loyalty to the party, sound familiar?) proves just how far right them, and their voters, have shifted in said window (proving what he's doing is working exactly to plan, and you're falling for it).

He doesn't represent me or any of my best interests, and never has any intention to even try to, why the fuck would I endorse him??

Also, when on earth do you think the Tories were planning on setting up a nationalised energy company, renationalising rail?

What makes you think New Labour is? 😂😂😂

(E: in reality, it's one of the many "promises" they've already u-turned on, or more like lied about, before ever even getting near power)

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Also need to point out that in his first election Corbyn was only 7 seats away from winning, or 2,227 votes away from winning that election. So the conservatives and the liberal media and right wingers in his own party absolutely shat themselves and started doing whatever they could to make sure he didnt win the next one. Combined with the 2019 election being mostly about brexit and Corbyn being in an impossible position of trying to unite a party that was deeply split on the issue. meant he had his "historic" loss. And even then he still got 10,000,000 votes compared to Johnsons 14,000,000 so it really wasnt even as big of a blowout as the media pushed it as.