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[–] CableMonster@lemmy.ml -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I am fine with worker co-ops, but state owned firms just suck. I think you are wanting the cuban model which is really really really bad, and there is a reason I knew a guy that floated here on an inner tube to get away from it.

[–] carl_marks_1312@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

state owned firms just suck

If you say so chief. Thank you for your valuable contribution.

I think you are wanting the cuban model which is really really really bad, and there is a reason

Strawmaning much here I see. Putting cuba in it's context means obviously I want the model apply everywhere, because history taught us that context doesn't matter obviously.

I knew a guy that floated here on an inner tube to get away from it.

What was his family business and his function in the batista regime?

[–] CableMonster@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The cuban model of government owned businesses is what you seem to be wanting, and even vox shows how poorly that works. State owned firms sucking is just a structural problem, if you dont understand why that is then you havent had to work with the government. The guy that floated here was due to wanting freedom and the ability to not be owned by the state.

[–] carl_marks_1312@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There are some services in the economy you never would want to be privately owned. e.g. Firedepartment, healthcare providers, etc. These type of business are better run as a service for society, instead of these being subject to the profit motive. Look up what a privatized fire department looked like in New York. If you can't understand that, then you havent been engaging with political theory enough..

even vox

Lol

The guy that floated here was due to wanting freedom and the ability to not be owned by the state

Castro brought freedom to Cuba. Looks like your friends understanding of freedom is the same as the average Americans: Being a wageslave for 8hrs a day on average lol

[–] CableMonster@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 months ago

Oh you are not living in the same reality as us. Have fun with that!