this post was submitted on 02 Jul 2024
66 points (92.3% liked)

Asklemmy

43811 readers
1024 users here now

A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions

Search asklemmy 🔍

If your post meets the following criteria, it's welcome here!

  1. Open-ended question
  2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions. Assume best intent and be excellent to each other.
  3. Not regarding using or support for Lemmy: context, see the list of support communities and tools for finding communities below
  4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members
  5. An actual topic of discussion

Looking for support?

Looking for a community?

~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Parents jobs arent to protect their kids

I get you don’t mean this so broadly but you lose all nuance with this statement.

Protect them from every minor mistake or risk that could ever possibly happen, and smothering them? Sure.

Someone about to stab your kid? Protect them from predators? Protect them from various risks and hazards in life which every parent should be teaching them?

  • dont get into strangers cars
  • dont let strangers into the house
  • look both ways when crossing the road
[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Hard to prepare a kid for adulthood when they're dead I suppose

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago

What is dead may never die

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It wasn’t the comment that lacked nuance; just your reading.

All the stuff you added went without saying.

[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world -3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Parents jobs arent to protect their kids.

What the fuck else does that mean? If you want to believe you can read minds and assume what a person is talking about, whatever.

But if someone makes a statement, maybe take it at face value rather than “ah yes they must mean something else”

fucking idiot

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I’m pretty autistic, so you’re not allowed to write this off as “people using magic communication I can’t understand because I’m smart” or whatever your model of the current situation is.

When a person says it is not a parent’s job to protect their kids, you already know what it means. It’s right there in your three bullet point.

  • dont get into strangers cars
  • dont let strangers into the house
  • look both ways when crossing the road

If a parent’s job were protecting their kids, these would read:

  • Don’t let your kids near roads or cars
  • Don’t give your kids control over the door
  • Don’t let your kids cross roads

Like, if I was given care of a dog for a week while their owners went on vacation, and my job were to “protect the dog”, I wouldn’t be putting the dog in any of the situations where its own choices were the source of its safety.

Are you ready to stop pretending that you don’t see?

[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

The first line of my reply literally says I dont think this is what you mean, BUT …. I very clearly stated I assume that isnt exactly what the commenter meant. The rest of my comment is to clarify what the poster defined as “protection”.

If someone came up to me and asked protect something, contextually yes obviously I understand that.

That isnt the situation here. The comment chain is someone with a “hot take” on what “parents protecting children” means. It being a hot take I feel it is completely valid to put aside any assumption that the commenter is talking about “well obviously I mean protect them from x y z”. Because its a potentially unpopular hot take. It’s not a common idea in society.

Unless you can read minds it is very possible this commenter meant it literally. IE how kids are raised in the film 300. “Heres a stick. go fight a wolf kid”.

Im not writing it off. I assumed what they meant but followed up for clarification. Did you just expect replies to be “agree” or “disagree” with zero further discussion?

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

Oh you’re right. It is a hot take, so it is likely that they mean the thing one wouldn’t expect.