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Donald Trump's lawyers have asked for the former president's conviction in his hush-money criminal case to be overturned and his sentencing this month delayed, US media report.

A letter sent by Trump's lawyers to the New York judge presiding over the trial reportedly cites Monday's Supreme Court ruling that granted the former president immunity from prosecution for official actions he took while in office.

In May, Trump was convicted on 34 counts of falsifying business records. He will be sentenced on 11 July.

His team points out that he signed off the records while president in 2017, but one lawyer suggested this was unlikely to be considered an official act.

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[–] FrostyTheDoo@lemmy.world 86 points 4 months ago (3 children)

He wasn't even president at the time of the hush payment was he? There's no way that could be considered an official act. Unless maybe the supreme Court was full of bribable puppets, with 1/3 of them having been appointed by the convicted felon.

Oh, shit.

[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee 15 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The Supreme Court ruled that if a president is doing something presidential it's presumed above board and can't be questioned or used as evidence. Saying talking to Hope Hicks, his aid while in office, makes it Presidential and it need to be littigated that it wasn't. A few pieces of evidence were used while he was President and in office so he says it's presidential and he's presumed immune until otherwise proved.

This is the serious issue with the ruling. The President is responsible for the military branch so if he ordered someone assassinated by Seal Team 6 he's immune with multiple layers given by the supreme court and it have to be worked upto the Supreme court that just gave him those powers which would take years.

Democrats (Biden) wont test this theory but Trump already admited to becoming a dictator day one. Basically, a republican can never be elected aspresident, and if they do we become a fascist state.

[–] Freefall@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The SCOTUS ruled the opposite of what the Constitution says is law.

[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

I mean, that's the simplified description. I just explained the new mechanics.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The President is responsible for the military branch so if he ordered someone assassinated by Seal Team 6 he’s immune with multiple layers given by the supreme court

Seal Team 6 is probably pretty squarely in the absolute immunity realm, at least if he doesn't the absolute minimum to try to say it's for national security. That's the stuff that shouldn't even be challengeable.

[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

He can use Seal Team 6 to assassinate Joe Biden, Bernie Sander, and Chris Gaians for being threats to the nation.

President is in charge of ST6 she's immune regardless how unlawful it is and you'd have yo worm your way to the supreme court for them to say it was an unofficial duty all while using ST6 to assassinate the next layer of judges.

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

No he was not, he used campaign finances for the hush money and once he got the pres he stopped upkeeping the agreement and didn't care which provided proof that it was purely about the election and thus furthered the claim of election interference.

All of that happened before he was pres. It cannot be an official act if you weren't an official yet.