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One House Democrat said he spoke for others in the wake of the president’s stunningly feeble debate performance on Thursday: “The movement to convince Biden to not run is real.”

The House member, an outspoken defender of the president, said that House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries and Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer should consider “a combined effort” to nudge President Joe Biden out of the race.

Crestfallen by the president’s weak voice, pallid appearance and meandering answers, numerous Democratic officials said Biden’s bet on an early debate to rebut unceasing questions about his age had not only backfired but done damage that may prove irreversible. The president had, in the first 30 minutes of the debate, fully affirmed doubts about his fitness.

A second House Democrat said “reflection is needed” from Biden about the way ahead and indicated the private text threads among lawmakers were even more dire, with some saying outright that the president needed to drop out of the race.

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[–] Xyre@lemmus.org 55 points 4 months ago (2 children)

This is how Bernie can still win! /s

In the off chance they do replace him, they're going to force the worst possible candidate on us (Kamala?). Because what else are you going to do, let the bad guy win?

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 14 points 4 months ago (4 children)
[–] bobburger@fedia.io 27 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Newsome would have to resign as Governor and I'm not sure he wants to do that for a long shot presidential campaign.

Newsome polls very poorly against Trump and he also isn't very popular in his home state as Governor.

[–] Count042@lemmy.ml 11 points 4 months ago

At that level, Kamala is hated by her home state as well.

[–] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 9 points 4 months ago

Not worth the risk to lose his governorship for a shot in the dark. I don't know why the Democrat Party hasn't been building alternatives for the last 4 years. Hell, I only recall seeing Harris when she was yelling at poor immigrants to stay away. They failed this country.

[–] mysticpickle@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Jesus fuck no. He's basically Hillary 2.0

and joe biden isnt? lateral move

[–] Xyre@lemmus.org 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It feels like he's inevitable at this point. 🙁

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I really hope not. He is as corpo as it gets, shielding PGE from actual consequences.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Which honestly, he needs corpo support to get nominated and elected, since this is an oligarchy.

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Why would Kamala be the worst candidate?

[–] Xyre@lemmus.org 40 points 4 months ago

A bland and unprincipled candidate whose positions shift based on polling numbers. Not to mention her prosecutorial background and close proximity to SF corruption scandals makes her an easy target.

[–] ganksy@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago (3 children)

She's not worse than Biden but not great. He should have chosen Stacey Abrams.

[–] Aphelion@lemm.ee 11 points 4 months ago

Her history as a prosecutor in California makes her significantly worse. She's personally locked up a lot of POC for drug possession.

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

She seems vague and even incoherent a lot of the time, I'm not so sure she's better.

[–] ganksy@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] ganksy@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Yeah hard sell on the whiney voice too

[–] Xyre@lemmus.org 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think Tammy Duckworth would've been a good choice.

[–] ganksy@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

She would have been such a great choice. Completely unassailable from all sides and sharp as a tack.

[–] Count042@lemmy.ml 21 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Everyone hates her for very good reasons.

There is a reason California didn't vote for her.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Why do people just go on the internet and tell lies like this? California elected her attorney general for 8 years and senator once.

[–] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 11 points 4 months ago

They might be talking about her primary run for President specifically, but she had dropped out way before then I'm pretty sure. That is, I am not sure if California even had a chance to vote for her. It's one of the parts that suck about US primaries and being in a late state. Sometimes you don't even get a chance to vote for the person you wanted to vote for before they drop out.

[–] lemmeout@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

What are those very good reasons? I really don't know.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago

Her background is as a "tough on crime" (read: shitty on civil rights) prosecuting attorney.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

She was incredibly unpopular when she ran in the primary. Her campaign failed well before Biden was the heir apparent.

[–] hightrix@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago

Running Kamala would be making the same mistake they made back in 2016. She is polarizing, and extremely unlikeable. Anyone that worked with her or her department when she was in law in CA has nothing but bad things to say about her.

Running Kamala would be giving Trump a second term.

[–] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

She’s not white and female, those reasons alone mean she’s lost over a quarter of the nation.

[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

That portion of the country wouldn't vote for any Democrat anyways.