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submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by spujb@lemmy.cafe to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.world
 
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[–] turbowafflz@lemmy.world 157 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Honestly I don't know how much better I could do than biden in an argument with trump. His look of just complete confusion as trump just continued to say complete nonsense was pretty much the same look I had listening to it.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 77 points 4 months ago (2 children)

really fair, it’s certainly an uncommon skill but it’s definitely a skill we should be able to expect of our literal leaders

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 74 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Imagine downvoting "I think the President should be good at public speaking"

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Fine line. We want "enough" charisma, but we don't want demogoguery.

I would have been fine with both of them having proxies for the debate and sitting in, with the proviso that they could chime in if their proxy said something they don't approve.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

we don't want demogoguery.

You sure about that? Could have fooled the rest of the parts of the world where people are legally allowed to even acknowledge demagoguery..

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Buddy, then it's you and me against the world. I'll be your campaign manager, you're the charismatic one.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Nah, I'm way too ideologically consistent to be a politician lol. Plus my hypoactive ADHD and social anxiety combo doesn't lend itself well to public office 😄

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

I really shouldn't have dump statted CHA. Where's Withers...

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

Obama spoiled us. Hell, even dubyuh was more articulate than either of the geriatrics we have now.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 8 points 4 months ago

the ratio got better overnight while the DNC was asleep and eurobros had the floor but i expect it to get worse from here on out

[–] Hobbes@startrek.website 1 points 4 months ago

Imagine if Trump had been debating John Stewart

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 45 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That’s pretty much been the playbook since day one, just shotgun blasts complete bullshit left and right, it’s the equivalent of verbal chaff. Misdirect, confuse, and trip up the opponent so that they have to waste time refuting your BS than actually talking about the facts.

[–] RippleEffect@lemm.ee 10 points 4 months ago

It's really clear to me that that was trumps entire playbook. He more of his time attacking Biden and spouting lies and bullshit than answering the questions. It went exactly how I expected.

I had really hoped that Biden would find his public speaking voice. He's competent but not a great speaker.

[–] Miaou@jlai.lu 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

The man couldn't even properly answer the abortion questions, I seriously hope you'd do better than that.

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today -1 points 4 months ago

He did OKAY on the abortion question, but then incoherently rambled for a few seconds and somehow brought immigration up. Still better than Trump's response.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

But this was bog-standard Trump for his entire political career. Gish galloping is what he does. This shouldn't have been a surprised Pikachu moment.

[–] rsuri@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I think you can do a lot better than he did, any of us could. Just look at the transcript here. ctrl+f for "golf". You're gonna tell me you don't have a better response than Biden here?

I'm just gonna come up with 5 things right now Biden could've said:

  • "I don't think the American people care how good my opponent's golf game is. They care if he can run the country, and as you can tell from his answer he doesn't even remember what that involves."
  • "Again with the cognitive tests. No one asked whether you took a cognitive test Donald. But if you wanna brag about it, at least release them to the public so we can see if you actually passed."
  • "I think everyone's seen enough from both of our 4 years in the white house - they can see I'm focused on the economy and foreign policy, while he was focused on golf as he still is."
  • "I'll fully concede that he's a better golfer than me. After all, he spent so much of his last administration practicing."
  • "This guy claims he won two club championships at the age of 82? Does anyone seriously believe that? This guy is delusional folks."

Instead Biden talked about his height (which he didn't mention) and challenged him to a driving contest. WTF. I recognize how bad this would've sounded before yesterday, but literally any random person we pick from this thread has better odds than Biden at this point.

Trump did absolutely horribly. His answers can be fairly described as completely and transparently delusional. But Biden managed to make him look good.