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We live in an age when the most unobjectionable and necessary ideas for progress can give rise to paranoia and fear. If the most innocuous, unoriginal possible idea can fuel paranoia, how can we hope to have a sensible discussion about the future of our places?

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[–] frogman@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i didn't know there was objections to this, i read about this concept about 4/5 years ago and i've been obsessed with the idea ever since. i even moved to a sort-of 30 minute city. i was doing some searches online after reading this and without adding anything inflammatory to my search terms i saw a predominantly negative response to this in the UK. im baffled. british MP Mark Dolan called this a "socialist" and "dystopian" idea and said it would create "a surveillance culture that would make Pyongyang envious".

15 minute cities don't make an enemy out of anyone. being afraid of this is baffling to me.

[–] kev_handle@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're 100% right to be baffled. Where I live we've seen extreme push back against the concept. The anti-vaxxers from the pandemic have latched onto the message in my area, and are saying that it will create ghetto's where it makes governments more able to enforce lock downs and restrict our freedoms. I don't see how they connected those dots together. It's actually crazy.

[–] nxtequal@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

The first time I ever heard of 15-minute cities was through conspircy theories (I like learning about them) and you're right that it is actually crazy. It's the exact same anti-vaxx crowd, who also believe 5G is harmful and similar "theories", lead by right-wing pundits and grifters whipping up outrage over nothing.