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We live in an age when the most unobjectionable and necessary ideas for progress can give rise to paranoia and fear. If the most innocuous, unoriginal possible idea can fuel paranoia, how can we hope to have a sensible discussion about the future of our places?

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[–] rothaine@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The right wing is afraid of a totalitarian dystopia? Uhhhh what? Republicans have become more and more authoritarian, but the line being drawn is...letting people walk to places instead of drive?

Baffling.

[–] GraceGH@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The right wing is afraid of a totalitarian dystopia?

Lol, no they're not. They salivate at the thought of having a totalitarian dystopia where they're on top. This is just more projection shit on their part. If anything, 15 minute cities deradicalize people by putting them in proximity to more diversity, make people friendlier by making them get to know their neighbors better, and financially better off because they're not forced to buy and maintain a vehicle to live a healthy life.

But fascists can't put the boot on your neck as easily if you have more wiggle room with money or solidarity with the working class, so of course they're afraid of it.

[–] ArcticCircleSystem@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why do they want to put boots on people's necks in the first place? ~Strawberry

[–] GraceGH@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Power? Control? Indoctrination and lack of critical thinking skills to escape it? Some kind of latent fear where they think if they don't come out on top someone will, treating life as a zero sum game? There's lots of potential reasons for people to act this way but it probably depends on the individual. I'm not comfortable painting with a super wide brush here because its dehumanizing, and these people are human. Reprehensible? Perhaps, but still human.

We can wax philosophic about why anyone does the things they do, but in the end it doesn't matter why they do what they do, it matters what they do and what actions we can take to try and improve our own lives and the lives of the people we care about.

[–] ArcticCircleSystem@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

It would certainly be an improvement if we could get them, at least a lot of them, to stop choosing to be like this... ~Strawberry