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Also from Jamie Zawinski yesterday: Mozilla's Original Sin

Some will tell you that Mozilla's worst decision was to accept funding from Google, and that may have been the first domino, but I hold that implementing DRM is what doomed them, as it led to their culture of capitulation. It demonstrated that their decisions were the decisions of a company shipping products, not those of a non-profit devoted to preserving the open web.

Those are different things and are very much in conflict. They picked one. They picked the wrong one.

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[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Any opinions on Opera? I used it 1000 years ago. I liked it but then they started charging or something and switched to Firefox. Then Brave which was my favorite but is a problem I guess. I used Chrome for a short time until I learned it was Google crap. So now I'm back to Firefox. I see Opera is still around though.

[–] luap@awful.systems 10 points 5 months ago (3 children)

opera is just chrome these days with a thin veneer of opera junk on top. Brave is just chrome with adblock built in selling you crypto, Vivaldi is chrome with Vivaldi veneer, heck, even edge is just chrome with microsoft replacing google. Firefox is the last true remaining non chrome browser, which is terrifying.

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Sure is. Thanks.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago

The only thing worse than open source Chromium-based browsers like Brave are proprietary ones like Opera and Vivaldi.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Firefox is the last true remaining non chrome browser

safari: what am i chopped liver?

[–] luap@awful.systems 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

fair, it's been a while since i used it, but when i did it was utterly useless on anything except apple products, which doesn't make it particularly useful. Things may have changed though

[–] luap@awful.systems 1 points 5 months ago

things did change, they no longer even offer it for anything except apple products, so if you want to use safari on windows it's 11 years out of date, and any other OS is just a full on no. So yeah, i'd say we're back to firefox as the only real alternative.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 months ago

Opera is now owned by a Chinese company, it is just a webkit/blink shell and, I have zero trust in them.