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[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

But you’re assuming the type of growth will never change.

  • population growth is not sustainable and we’re past that point, but knowledge growth is
  • resources growth is not sustainable and we’re past that point for many resources, but economies can grow independently of resources
[–] Zacryon@lemmy.wtf 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They literally said:

Perpetual growth in a finite system is impossible

I don't see how your comment applies to that.

Knowlegde growth may be sustainable, but it is also impossible to grow forever. (Supposing knowlegde is finite, which is, as far as I see it, the case as long as we make the definition of knowledge depend on characteristics like repition-free and new. For example, you could learn the number pi to even longer lenghts forever, but doing that is not necessarily something new to know as it's just a manifestation of a repition which was already discovered.)

I'm intrigued how you would explain that economies could grow independently of resources. From my perspective, it looks a lot like each and every form of economy relies somehow on some form of resource or resources. As resources are finite, economies can't grow forever.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There are already trends showing economic growth disconnected from both resources and energy. Welcome to the service economy

[–] Zacryon@lemmy.wtf 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Service needs workforce performing the service. Workforce are usually human resources. Thereby, limited again. Or did I get it wrong?

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

We already have many cases where a very small number of humans can manage automated services for millions. It’s extremely scalable

While you could argue the electronics and power are also a resource dependency, it again scales extremely well