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just so this doesn't overwhelm our front page too much, i think now's a good time to start consolidating discussions. existing threads will be kept up, but unless a big update comes let's try to keep what's happening in this thread instead of across 10.

developments to this point:

The Verge is on it as usual, also--here's their latest coverage (h/t @dirtmayor@beehaw.org):

other media coverage:

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[–] chrislenz@beehaw.org 50 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Wow. Spez is doubling down on attacking the Apollo dev. You'd think spez was new to reddit with the way he's commenting.

[–] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's bizarre to read his comment on that. It's either psychopath behaviour, or... I just don't know. I'm not a psychologist. It is worrying though, to see a human in charge of a social company act like that. He should probably be removed by some legal means just for that comment alone.

[–] crank@beehaw.org 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I do not know much details about the internal power structures of a company like reddit, but it seems like this guy seems to be a real liability at the moment. I wonder why he is being allowed to go around doing this.

Maybe they are giving him enough rope to hang himself so he can be removed from his position in a few days. Firing a disliked manager is a common union busting tactic. If he can be made into the centre of gravity for all the ire, canning him and making some small backtrack could have a lot of people reconsidering leaving reddit.

Or maybe there truly is no plan....

[–] Lemmington@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago

Wouldn't be the first time they've done that

[–] UpperBroccoli@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

He is one of the founders and likely holds a big amount of shares.

[–] FutureProject@lemmy.one 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't get what his angle is. Is it just dumb ego or am I missing something?

[–] chrislenz@beehaw.org 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He's selling and he's going to point his investors to his AMA comments.

[–] Thrashy@beehaw.org 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not sure what his responses are going to do for investors' confidence, given that they mostly show a complete lack of understanding of his userbase, and the reaction to them implies that he's trying to sell them damaged goods.

[–] Stormyfemme@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Again anything public facing is a lie. The rich investment firms know that it's designed just to try and placate an unruly userbase. Now if something comes of it? Then they'll care. If the blackout happens I wouldn't be shocked if there's wholesale usurpation of the mod teams to reopen the big ones.

e: typo

[–] Thrashy@beehaw.org 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I fully expect that subs with major frontpage presences are going to get taken over by the mothership and reopened almost immediately. They may even be able to find some poor saps to mod them, at least for a couple weeks until they realize that's a full-time job. But the smaller subs are what long-time and power users end up diffusing to and what keeps them engaged with the site over time, and those are likely going to be dead or zombies shortly. Any investor putting money into Reddit for any reason other than short-term trading or hoping to be at the front of the line to pick over the corpse in a few years has failed to do their due diligence.

[–] neo@lemmy.comfysnug.space 1 points 1 year ago

Now is the perfect time to short reddit stock :o

[–] DJDarren@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the way I see it is that the vast majority of Reddit users have no idea that any of this is going on, and wouldn’t care if they did.

So from Corporate’s perspective, all they have to do is deal with a few weeks of whining and teeth gnashing, before everything calms down again and they can get on with whoring Reddit out.

Ultimately they’ll end up back in the black again, and making enough money from the IPO to not give the tiniest rats ass about any of this. They’ll sail off into the sunset on a fleet of expensive yachts, and never give Reddit another thought.

[–] UpperBroccoli@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

The people who don't notice are probably not the people bringing the content or moderating the subs though.

[–] Stormyfemme@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago

It's all corpspeak. It means nothing except to lie and gaslight users into staying so he can cash out.

[–] wickerlark@beehaw.org 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah that was completely disgusting. Steve dun goofed yet again. And here I thought nothing could get worse than the whole Ellen Pao incident lol

[–] Radicalized@lemmy.one 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pao was used by design to piss people off. They made her CEO and had her implement on the changes they knew would be unpopular with the community, then “fired” her, complete with her own golden parachute.

[–] dr_catman@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago

And kept all of “her” changes.

[–] ArtVandelay@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

classic bully behavior

[–] aedyr@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago

Yeah I think it was too much to hope there would actually be good-faith engagement at this point. It was just more corporate messaging.

[–] nantucketebooks@fosstodon.org 1 points 1 year ago

@chrislenz @alyaza Spez is hitting on twenty.