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[–] Greg@lemmy.ca 158 points 6 months ago (5 children)

That chiropractic care is not evidence based

[–] Mostly_Gristle@lemmy.world 73 points 6 months ago (2 children)

For people who don't know, the theory of chiropractics is that the light of God somehow shines into the human body through the top of the head, travels down the spine, and on through the nerves. If you can just fix any blockages (aka "subluxations") in that flow then it will be impossible for disease to exist in the body. Because God's light.

The founder of chiropractics was told this information by a ghost.

I know some people swear by chiropractic adjustments, but this is information I wish I'd known when I had my back injury because going to a chiropractor set my recovery back by at least three years. And the money I lost to that quack could have paid for not only the legit physical therapist that actually got me feeling better, but probably a decent massage chair too.

[–] AnarchistArtificer 6 points 6 months ago

Wow, I knew chiropractors were quacks, but I didn't know it was this bad. Thanks for sharing this; I'm sorry that you didn't have this information when you most needed it.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I’ve never heard a chiropractor say that. How do I know what you just claimed about that field isn’t misinformation?

[–] Mostly_Gristle@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

From the Wikipedia article:

"Early chiropractors believed that all disease was caused by interruptions in the flow of innate intelligence, a vitalistic nervous energy or life force that represented God's presence in man; chiropractic leaders often invoked religious imagery and moral traditions. D. D. Palmer said he 'received chiropractic from the other world'. D. D. and B. J. [Palmer] both seriously considered declaring chiropractic a religion, which might have provided legal protection under the U.S. constitution, but decided against it partly to avoid confusion with Christian Science."*

Why would a chiropractor tell you that? Nobody selling you a quack remedy is going to just come out and tell you it's quack remedy. That's rule #1 of selling quack remedies. But the history of chiropractics isn't a secret, Neither are the statistics on vertebral artery dissection and other injuries caused by chiropractic adjustments. But look, I'm not your mommy. You don't have to believe me, and you're free to go do what you feel. It's your own neck you're risking.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 40 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The stuff they do that works is stuff that a physiotherapist will do, just go see the expert.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

My chiro has all his training in physiotherapy. So is he a quack or is he a pro? I'm so confused!

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 20 points 6 months ago

If he was a certified physiotherapist then he would work as a physio I can guarantee that.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I think you’ve just reconciled two things:

  1. Internet always says chiropractors are quacks

  2. Multiple reasonable people IRL have praised their own chiropractors

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 months ago

Someone can praise their chiropractor, in the end that's anecdotal and then I could point to all the people that have become paralyzed due to chiros.

All of them are quacks because most of what they do to people is bullshit and potentially harmful, it just happens that they sometimes also do some things that are actually ok but it's methods employed by an actual medical field.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago

Are you sure? I'm pretty sure the ghost that taught DD Palmer the art of chiropracticness was totally legit. DD even said the ghost was a doctor, why would you not believe him?!?

[–] Veraxus@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Depends on what you mean by that. PTs can use chiropractic techniques to great effect.

But there is a MASSIVE difference between an actual PT that sometimes uses specific chiropractic techniques and the con artists who try to shake your down for weekly neck cracks.

[–] someacnt_@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I thought PT was chiropractic.

[–] LockheedTheDragon@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

PT is evidence based, chiropracty is woo. PT goal is to get you better and stop PT or teach you how to do it on your own. Chiropractors want you to come back for the rest of your life.

[–] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

I've been cracking my own neck and back since I was 14/15, never had to pay for fake doctors