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[–] 555@lemmy.world -5 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Normally I would say this damage was inappropriate. But, considering humanity is going to be eradicated in the next hundred years, give or take, I think maybe we should be doing more to slow that down.

[–] Womble@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

FWIW this kind of alarmist talk only lets people write off your comment as hysterical. Humans are not going to go extinct in the next 100 years, Canada isnt going to become hotter than Arabia and become unlivable.

What we might (and even possibly the most likely scenario is to) get is wide scale societal breakdown, starvation of billions, mass migration of billions of those currently living in regions that become uninhabitable but dont starve, and the consequant resource wars that those entail. The future is bleak enough without making up even worse things that wont happen.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

But how will this slow that down?

[–] 555@lemmy.world -5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The squeaky wheel gets the oil. Obviously humanity is not being squeaky enough. Maybe if enough things are destroyed, The rest of the world will finally pay attention.

[–] PorradaVFR@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

I thought oil was the problem?

Their point is absolutely valid. Their method is absurd. This doesn't generate a dialogue, it undermines the point by enabling opponents to rightfully condemn the vandalism and changes no minds.

Attacking art or culture is counterproductive.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Why do you think "the world" matters? This is mostly the fault of a few corporations and their executives couldn't give less of a shit about what someone does to Stonehenge.

[–] Mrs_deWinter@feddit.de 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

How do we stop evil corporations? With political action. How do we get political action? Either by voting or collective activism.

There's no solution that doesn't require ourselves to spring into action, even if it's "mostly the fault of a few corporations and their executives".

[–] tobogganablaze@lemmus.org 6 points 4 months ago

How do we stop evil corporations? With political action. How do we get political action? Either by voting or collective activism.

That is true.

But they are doing activism for the wrong side. The conservatives and far right will jump on this one, because they just gotten handed a talking point on a silver platter. "Radical left activists attack cultural heritage site". They couldn't have asked for a more perfect one.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Voting for whom? They're all corrupt, or haven't you noticed? We're living in a global oligarchy.

Also, why on Earth do you think environmental activists pissing people off will help with any sort of collective action?

[–] Mrs_deWinter@feddit.de -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Ah, a doomer. So let me guess, there's nothing we can do and every form of activism is useless?

Just go on with your day then. This protest certainly isn't about you. They didn't hurt you personally, so why not just let them do their thing. The people who believe solutions exist can continue to search for them and you don't have to bother.

Or do you actually have something helpful in mind?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I'm not sure why you think I should answer your questions when you won't do me the courtesy of answering mine. That's incredibly rude of you.

[–] Mrs_deWinter@feddit.de 1 points 4 months ago

Your questions seemed rather rhetorical to me. As long as you act on the premise that there's no solution, any conversation about the topic - including this one - is a monumental waste of time. So let's just leave it at that.

[–] 555@lemmy.world -4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Oh I don’t think the world matters. In fact, I’m super happy humanity is about to be wiped out of existence. We are all pieces of shit.

But you would think more people would be interested in saving it. A significant portion of humanity is uninterested in hearing about Global warming. Those people need to wake up.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

A significant portion of humanity is uninterested in hearing about Global warming

What is "significant?"

And, again, hearing about it doesn't mean you can do something about it. There's fuck all I can do about it.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yet this kind of protests just alienates the protesters from the population they want support from

[–] 555@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

They want support from me.