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Before the 1960s, it was really hard to get divorced in America.

Typically, the only way to do it was to convince a judge that your spouse had committed some form of wrongdoing, like adultery, abandonment, or “cruelty” (that is, abuse). This could be difficult: “Even if you could prove you had been hit, that didn’t necessarily mean it rose to the level of cruelty that justified a divorce,” said Marcia Zug, a family law professor at the University of South Carolina.

Then came a revolution: In 1969, then-Gov. Ronald Reagan of California (who was himself divorced) signed the nation’s first no-fault divorce law, allowing people to end their marriages without proving they’d been wronged. The move was a recognition that “people were going to get out of marriages,” Zug said, and gave them a way to do that without resorting to subterfuge. Similar laws soon swept the country, and rates of domestic violence and spousal murder began to drop as people — especially women — gained more freedom to leave dangerous situations. 

Today, however, a counter-revolution is brewing: Conservative commentators and lawmakers are calling for an end to no-fault divorce, arguing that it has harmed men and even destroyed the fabric of society. Oklahoma state Sen. Dusty Deevers, for example, introduced a bill in January to ban his state’s version of no-fault divorce. The Texas Republican Party added a call to end the practice to its 2022 platform (the plank is preserved in the 2024 version). Federal lawmakers like Sen. J.D. Vance (R-OH) and House Speaker Mike Johnson, as well as former Housing and Urban Development Secretary Ben Carson, have spoken out in favor of tightening divorce laws.

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[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 27 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Women tend to flee areas like that. Ask China how it worked out with the one child policy.

[–] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 47 points 5 months ago (2 children)

"Well that's easy to fix! We just have to prevent them from leaving without a male guardian's permission."

– Conservatives, probably

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I guessing a spike in fathers/husbands being hammered to death in their sleep. Let me do jury duty for those cases. We'll be home by lunch.

[–] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 26 points 5 months ago (1 children)

"Jury trial for a feeeeeemale killing a man? Don't be ridiculous, that's immediate capital punishment"

While I'm being facetious, there's probably a reason why Project 2025 is specifically pushing for more and faster capital punishment

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Fuck everything attached to that wish list.

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's more than just a wish list.

[–] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 6 points 5 months ago

Yeah, that's the Republican TODO list for what will happen when / if Trump wins

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Jury nullification. Prosecutors and judges hate it, but it's not illegal!

[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

...and admitting that you know it exists is grounds for you not being allowed on a jury.

But yeah, judges judge the law, juries judge the facts. so the judge can corral how the trial proceeds and explain to the jury what criteria they are supposed to be following and what evidence they are supposed to consider but the jury can decide what it wants and their decision cannot be challenged - which means if they decide that someone is guilty/not guilty for reasons wholly unrelated to what the law actually says then that's what it is.

It's why I was surprised that Trump was found guilty on all counts in the NY trial - I was expecting a mistrial due to hung jury before the trial even started because I was expecting at least one hardcore supporter/opponent of Trump who was going to vote based on that regardless of the evidence making it impossible to have a unanimous agreement.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago

I was expecting a mistrial due to hung jury before the trial even started because I was expecting at least one hardcore supporter/opponent of Trump who was going to vote based on that regardless of the evidence

Anyone that hardcore is easy to filter out. They would check the Facebook of any potential jurors before starting.

[–] Cosmonaut_Collin@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Looks like it's time for Utah to share it's Mormonism.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

I’m sure they’re counting on it being rather difficult to flee from most places in the U.S.