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Hi everyone :).

Just getting started with Manjaro as daily drive to get some easier arched based distro. Except for the LVM bug with calamares everything is pretty smooth :).

But at first boot, I saw they have added their personal Manjaro logo on boot and I directly though of the bug exploit logoFAIL I heard a few month ago and It made me curious if this is something that could be exploitable by Manjaro.

Probably not, this would harm their image and hard worked system, but I'm still curious... If someone smarter/more knowledgeable than me could chime in and give some valuable information on this topic regarding Manjaro, I would really appreciate it !

Thank you !

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[–] sorrybookbroke@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

I would absolutely love it if manjaro was a reasonable choice. It was my first pick too. Their continual incompetence is what makes me wary of the company. I doubt you want a conversation as you're quick to paint me in this light but I do expand here on my major reasons:

https://sh.itjust.works/comment/12137275

Some of this stuff happened only a few years ago. The same people are still running this company. I have no reason to think they've changed.

If you just want "arch made easy" I would suggest endeavorOs (best wallpapers hands down) or arco linux.

I love the idea of manjaro and sincerely hope that either a, they get their shit together (which is preffered), or b, a new manjaro like distro comes into existance.

The two week delay along with the calamari installer, and default plasma desktop give me a half chub already thinking about it. I'd be full send for it if the devs were competent

[–] N0x0n@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago

Thank you :) EndeavourOS was my second pick !

I picked manjaro because their user base is bigger and Manjaro is older. I will probably switch to EndeavourOS for all the reasons mentionted here and there in the comments. There seems to be a common strange atmosphere arround manjaro.

Also, because that logo thing on boot made me this post, this means I already felt something is odd with Manjaro. Always follow your guts !

Ps: Didn't though it's that much of a heated subject. It's a bit sad, I really liked manjaro's default and looks amazing.

[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl -1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

And here's some of mine: https://lemmy.world/comment/10439242

I grow weary of Manjaro detractors because the malice is always there. You can't make up your mind whether you hate the developers or what they do. You hate episodes like the "AUR DDoS" without knowing all the facts, or considering how shitty AUR infrastructure is that if a pigeon landed on the roof it would go down, so in the same breath you condemn Manjaro for "AUR incompatibility" and for promoting AUR and for "DDoS"-ing it. I mean pick a lane.

But mostly it's just the hate that always seeps through that bothers me, not the content (which is the same inane stuff on manjarno over and over). What kind of person defines themselves by hate for something they don't even use? There's a million distros out there, there's something for everybody. You're not Inigo Montoya, get over it, Jesus. There was a root exploit unfixed in Debian for a while, do you hate them too? Can you imagine the reactions if there were a root exploit in Manjaro? Is any of this irony getting through?

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They don't accept there own mistakes even. They do things like ship a broken kernel and then blame the upstream development.

Why even use it? There are much better options.

[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Which kernel was that? Manjaro recommends using LTS kernels.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

M1 Mac kernel from upstream. They didn't bother to tell anyone and just pulled from master.

[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah you can do that, it's in the license. You don't have to "tell someone", you just have to publish the source.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 months ago

Can is not the same as should

[–] sorrybookbroke@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

You are misrepresenting my points, and the anger you ascribe to me is odd, as the only person representing this behavior is you. You insult me, you misrepresent my points, you say I'm defined by my aparent hatred. This is strange behavior only suited to getting your "enemy" to shut up and in no way constructive nor condusive to a reasonable conversation.

Firstly, my issue is that they don't warn about the dangers of the aur properly. Not that they promote it at all. If you read my statement I am clear. The aur is very useful, though dangerous. Also, on manjaro, version mismatch is likely to happen as the aur is built for arch and arch is two weeks ahead. You however pretend my point to be some entirely different thing in order to get you epic own.

Next, on the aur 'ddosing', what do I not understand? The first time, ok, that's reasonable we all make mistakes. They did it again though in the same way. Nothing was done on their end to stop this from happening. Something we will see continually as they just don't stop making weird, unnecessary mistakes.

As for me being Inigo Montoya, I actually am for your information. Manjaro killed my daddy-dom while I was sucking him off and for that I cannot forgive the company.

This hatred you fantasize about does not come from me. Calm down and maybe try actually talking to people instead of trying to "own" them, or to simply "destroy the anti-manjarites"

Edit: I see in the other post you did the same. Ignore what people kindly talking about their issues with manjaro say responding with hateful comments pretending they were the real issue. This is a continual issue with you