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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 20 points 5 months ago (4 children)

How long until these are banned ?

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

We are the party of free market capitalism! We won't allow rules to stop us from polluting the shit out of everything, we won't allow rules that will make the world better! We only allow rules that block the competitors of our biggest bribers

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Free market for me, not for thee.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago

This is it basically. People think free markets are bad for humanity, but all the problems are for when people just reach out and stop the free market from happening.

That’s government’s job: maintain an actually free market, where new people can come in and give people what they want, when the existing guys fail to do so.

It takes active input of energy to maintain that state of affairs. There will always be people who want to take control of it in unfair ways and get profit without providing the best value to the people, and it’s in our collective best interests to stop those people. So it’s legit to spend taxes on things like breaking up monopolies or maintaining infrastructure.

Free market doesn’t mean it happens naturally. It used to happen more naturally, because the total amount of power a person could wield over others was limited. But ever since we’ve had armies and ultra wealthy families and huge companies, all of which can exert power over individuals, a free market is a thing which requires government enforcement to maintain.

I think our problem might be that our government isn’t financially dominant. It is militarily dominant, and so it’s able to maintain the relative safety that comes from having a monopoly on violence. But the government doesn’t have a monopoly on financial power and so it can be overpowered by money.

[–] Jollyllama@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Already are banned in a few states, relegated to being registered as off road vehicles only.

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 2 points 5 months ago

I saw in the article that they are legal in 19 states. I did not see the off road vehicle bit. Interesting, and thanks.

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago

Regardless of bans, I’ve heard these cars are INCREDIBLY hard to import. Not only is getting permits for them difficult, but many places selling them domestically have gone around the laws regarding them, resulting in people’s Kei trucks being taken by the government and shipped back to Japan on their dime.

It’s not an easy thing to get into.

[–] Uncaged_Jay@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

It's already happening in some states