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So what's changed since Oct 7? Was Hamas able to achieve peace and remove the concentration camp conditions or has it worsened?
Yes it's looking like Hamas is going to achieve those objectives.
Sadly because israel is a Nazi state, it's like fighting against the Nazis. People die when you fight against the Nazis.
So, just to circle back to og question: Palestine (or what's left of it) is on track to no longer be a concentration camp and hostages are being released? The conditions for palestinians have improved since Oct 7?
Did living conditions improve for people while they were fighting against the Nazis?
It must be difficult to understand but sometimes thing have to get worse before they get better.
What is a reasonable length of time the Palestinians should endure this strategy? Fighting Nazis during WW2 lasted 6 years. The Palestinian-Israeli conflict has been going on for almost 100 years.
Has Hamas been able to improve anything using this strategy or has Israel gained an advantage over each intifada / attack in the course of the last 100 years? Who has benefited the most from the current Hamas strategy?
As long as Nazi israel doesn't stop of course.
I am unsure why you are blaming israeli terror on Hamas.
Each time Hamas attacks, Israel retaliates with extreme disproportionate violence and manages to expand settlements aggressively. So far, how would you say Hamas has improved the lives of Palestinians by instigating violence:
[ _ ] Significantly better
[ _ ] About the same
[ _ ] Significantly worse
As a follow up, what is a reasonable period Palestinians should endure Hamas tactics:
[ _ ] One year
[ _ ] Ten years
[ _ ] Another hundred years
Israel is going to keep doing the same shitty aggressive behavior and exploit every attack and thousands of Palestinians die. It's almost like peace is not their primary objective (for either side). Should we keep encouraging Hamas do the same strategy of the past 100 years or should we try something different? What're your thoughts, Link?
What do you mean? The West Bank is being Annexxed. Gaza is not.
Hamas is offering a permanent ceasefire and israel is not.
What hamas has done has never been done before in 100 years. Israel is rapidly losing international support as they are being unmasked for the Nazis they are. The illusion of israel being a civilized society has completely shattered.
I didn't ask which territory is being annexed.
I didn't ask about this particular ceasefire for this particular conflict which started Oct 7.
I didn't ask about Israel gaining or losing international support.
I didn't ask about the "illusion of civilized society" breaking
Original question, since we're dodging as per usual: Is the tactic by instigating attacks leading to better outcomes overall for Palestinian people?
It's been 100 years of Hamas (and other factions) instigating attacks and each time Israel retaliates with disproportionate violence. 30,000+ Palestinians are dead now. Is the condition in Gaza now:
[ _ ] Significantly better
[ _ ] About the same
[ _ ] Significantly worse
Depends which time you are comparing to. FYI israel colonized Gaza at one point and then people fought back and drove them out.