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[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

One thing not talked about as a positive is the notion that some folks will sit on their ass and just drink/smoke and watch tv or such. This cracks me up as these folks do not improve the workforce when they are forced into it. My hope is that I could work without those whose prescence actually increases the amount of work needed and cause the results to be worse. Unfotunately many of those will still be "working" as they like nice things but hopefully it will at least lessen those situations.

[–] lemmyng@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Even without UBI there's people who sit in their ass and drink/smoke/watch TV/etc. But without UBI they are more prone to resort to petty theft or other antisocial activities to support that habit. UBI pilot programs have demonstrably shown a decrease in crime, because it removes one of the incentives for it.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 3 points 5 months ago

exactly. the main point is folks like that are not going to be a net positive if you put the screws to them. We win out if we let people follow what they want or are compensated enough to do what they are willing to do.