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Star Trek fans have held the national stereotype of being way too rabid about things for decades but they’re probably the nicest fan base in all of science fiction and the one least likely to have a large faction of them absolutely lose it over a torpedo being fired by a woman or dumb shit like that

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[–] Emoba@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 5 months ago (4 children)

I'm out of the loop... What torpedo? What woman?

[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Maybe the recent controversy from Warhammer 40k where Games Workshop retconned women space marines into existence? I dunno, did Star Wars do something to trigger the sexists since then, that controversy is a few weeks old now.

[–] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Female adeptes custodes not Space marines. Makes little difference in the large picture but it’s possible within the lore to have female custodians as they’re all humans picked at birth and genetically altered/enhanced individually to make the best soldier they could ever be. GW just didn’t mention females being in that order for 30 years apparently lol

Space marines are all male though, have been explicitly stated as being all male repeatedly and even recently with lore backing of the some of the organ implants and genetic modification templates only work on males since they’re based off the primarchs who were all male as sons of the emperor of mankind.

I’ll end with saying that GW has done great with inclusion in recent years, even explicitly telling Nazis to go find another hobby if they don’t like that GW is making warhammer and warhammer 40k for everyone, of all races, genders, and religions. They’ve always had racial representation and some manner of gender representation in the guard and eldar but now they’re expanding and I’m all for it. I have no issues with any of it so long as GW doesn’t just say ignore the last ~40 years of established lore and even recent lore issuances because we would like to sell more models.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I took it as a (mistaken) reference to the scene in The Last Jedi when Vice Admiral Holdo (Laura Dern) rams into a star destroyer in hyperspace, a maneuver which destroyed both ships and made people wonder why they didn’t just hyperspace into shit all the time instead of building warships and getting shot all the time.

It happened in the same point in the movie when she refuses multiple times to say that she has any plan whatsoever, leading to a lot of pointless fighting and was thought to have been some sort of commentary on “believing women” but very poorly executed.

Disney spent billions to destroy the Star Wars canon, but hopefully Trek can escape such a grisly fate.

[–] Kushan@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

In fairness, that scene with the destroyers was fucking awesome. Fuck the canon, it looked cool as fuck.

[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Wasn't it one of the recent star wars films?

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago

I didn't give that a second thought, glad someone else thought they knew the reference