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[–] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

It would also limit effectiveness in an important and difficult job that requires potentially years of procedural understanding and relationship building to pass impactful legislation.

A company where every employee was “junior” would waste a lot of time and money.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

This. I have no idea why it's a popular trope to just talk about "term limits" as if it would actually solve anything. For some reason, actual expertise at governing is frowned on, but I doubt the very people arguing for term limits would ever argue for term limits for a plumber, a dentist, a mechanic, a roofer...anyone up for having their teeth drilled by an "outsider"? I know I'm not.

[–] eodur@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I have strongly mixed feelings on this. Perhaps we should intact term limits, but probably not as short as usually proposed and probably paired with something to limit outside influence. The common claim I hear is that with a more junior Congress they would be even more reliant on the parts of "government" that stick around longer, like lobbyists.

[–] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

The call for term limits usually comes from the people who want (need?) government to be impotent and dysfunctional - typically echoing messages that very wealthy capitalists have injected into the public discourse.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Yes, it's a common talking point of the far right and when someone brings it up as some kind of magical solution to something it's a red flag. It might be that they are arguing in good faith for it, but haven't really thought it through...

The problem is all the legalized bribery. Having short-term whores in Congress won't change that at all, it would only give the illusion of change for the better. It would more likely make things far, far worse.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago

It requires years of procedural understanding because there's no term limits. There isn't benefit to that excessive procedure apart from making junior representatives lives more difficult. Congress can make their own rules, and they make them benefit those who have been there for 30 years. A term limited Congress can make rules that work better for them.