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[–] bufalo1973@lemmy.ml 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

If, according to their own rules, that god created everything, it created LGTB+ people too. Are they saying their perfect imaginary being made a mistake? And if "it's the devil's work", is it so weak that it can't prevent it?

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's so stupid. A local church which was kind of a hip young church recently announced they were not LGBT affirming and were really nasty about it,, and like two thirds of their congregation left as a result. Even modern Christians don't approve of this anymore.

[–] rdrunner@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ehhh, that greatly depends on the church. There are still a lot of churches out there that are totally on board with hating anyone who isn't perfectly straight. You know, that kind of hate that Jesus preached about all the time! People wouldn't have as many issues with Christians if they actually followed Jesus's teachings, but here we are.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Well some of them definitely aren't. My friend I mentioned and I go to a very affirming church and he is beloved as well as our other gay and trans congregation. Nobody would dream of being anything else.

[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Are they saying their perfect imaginary being made a mistake? And if “it’s the devil’s work”, is it so weak that it can’t prevent it?

The usual answer to this is that God gave man free will, and he can use that free will to act against God (or else the garden of Eden myth would be impossible) and if you choose to be gay, that's on you. That being LGBTQ+ is a choice is pretty fundamental to it, and also why they tend to believe in things like conversion therapy - if it's a choice, you can be taught to choose differently.

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 5 months ago

things like conversion therapy - if it’s a choice, you can be taught to choose differently.

Oh, fuck!
I mixed that term up with "gender-affirming care".

That explains the negativity around "conversion therapy" xD

[–] bufalo1973@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago

"When did you choose to be heterosexual? And can you be gay for a week?" 🤷‍♂️

[–] ebc@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 months ago

Also, according to their rules, "love one another" is the single most important one. "Don't be gay" is in an ancient book that also includes "woman in their period must sleep in a separate tent", but we don't see them applying that one, do we?

So going by what's actually in the bible, hating gays is a bigger sin than being gay. Who's going to hell now?