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[–] Flipper@feddit.de 19 points 5 months ago (25 children)

The great thing about nuclear power is that the real cost only comes after the power has been generated. How do you store the spent fuel cells and what do you do with the reactor when it can't be used anymore. Just before that happens you spin the plant into its own company. When that company goes bankrupt the state needs to cover the cost, as it isn't an option to just leave it out in the open.

Privatise profit communalism cost.

[–] UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev 34 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (19 children)

Here's all of Switzerland's high level nuclear waste for the last 45 years. It solid pellets. You could fit the entire ~~world's~~ US' waste on a football field.

It's not the greatest challenge mankind have faced.

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago (13 children)

In Germany, we've got a location with 47,000 cubic meters: https://www.bge.de/en/asse/
That requires some pretty tall stacking on that football field. Or I guess, you're saying if you'd unpack it all and compress it?

Also, we really should be getting the nuclear waste out of said location, since there's a known risk of contamination. But even that challenge is too great for us, apparently.
Mainly, because we don't have any locations that are considered safe for permanent storage. It's cool that Switzerland has figured it out. And that some hypothetical football field exists. But it doesn't exist in Germany, and I'm pretty sure, Switzerland doesn't want our nuclear waste either.

[–] Waryle@jlai.lu 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

In Germany, we've got a location with 47,000 cubic meters: https://www.bge.de/en/asse/

Read your link: 47 000m³ of low and intermediate radioactive waste.

Low radioactive waste is objects (paper, clothing, etc...) which contain a small amount of short-lived radioactivity, and it mostly comes from the medical fields, not nuclear plants, so even if you phase out of nuclear, you'll have to deal with it anyway.

This waste makes up for the vast majority (94% in UK for example) of the nuclear waste produced, and you can just leave it that way a few years, then dispose of it as any other waste.

Intermediate radioactivity waste is irradiated components of nuclear power plants. They are in solid form and do not require any special arrangement to store them as they do not heat up. This includes shorts and long-lived waste and represents only a small part of the volume of radioactive waste produced (4% in UK).

So you're mostly dealing with your medical nuclear waste right here, and you can thank your anti-nuclear folks for blocking most of your infrastructure construction projects to store this kind of waste.

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That shit still needs to be stored. I do not know, why you're berating me about it.

[–] Waryle@jlai.lu 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I did not berated you, I corrected you. If being corrected feel like being berated to you, maybe fact check yourself before commenting

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They had written that you could fit the entire world's waste on a football field. I had not interpreted that as specifically referring to high level nuclear waste.

[–] Waryle@jlai.lu 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Come on, even the comment above it specifically mention waste generated by nuclear power and its management

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

The comment mentioned Homer (glowing green rods), I don’t recall any episode where Springfield deals with socks from radiology departments nearby. That kind of obfuscation is kinda par for the course any time you bring up nuke stuff though, folks don’t realize it’s a political problem not an engineering one and most of the anti nuke talking points are fabricated for fearmongering

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