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Maybe starting a land war with Russia and a trade war with China at the same time was a bad idea
I'm sorry, who started a land war in February 2022?
did world history suddenly begin on February 2022?
February 2022? Hmm, did Russia ever stopped invading neighbour countries?
No.
Russia was famously invaded multiple times by the same sorts of people they're fighting now.
Russia has been famously invaded by Ukraine, what?
You are really good at reading between the lines, but I'm referring to the wide array of foreign mercenaries mostly.
None of those foreign mercenaries have invaded Russia. They are inside the borders of Ukraine defending Ukraine from invasion.
I'm not even the native english speaker here, but the line I responded with originally was:
there are French, German, UK, US and a wide array of european mercenaries there, all of those countries have had a part in invading Russia in the past, some of them multiple times.
The the original assertion that russia has never stopped invading places - I pointed out that it's been invaded repeatedly (US/UK/French expeditions during the civil war, Barbarossa, Napoleon to name a few) - which doesn't really line up with that image of an unstoppable invader.
You have to go back over 200 years to get France invading Russia. Russia invaded Paris in 1813. Everyone invaded everyone in the 1800's. Russia was invading all its neighbors in the 1800's.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Russia
The US/UK supporting the Russian Czar during the Civil War isn't an invasion.
Yeah just like how this is special military operation!
There is no civil war in Ukraine and Putin recognizes Zelensky as the legitimate head of state. So not the same at all.
But the two republics are also recognized and did ask for help as well, hence the SMO- and idk what you would consider 2014-2022 in ukraine but civil war would be a fair description in my opinion.
Only a few countries recognize Donbas.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_the_Donetsk_People%27s_Republic_and_the_Luhansk_People%27s_Republic
Yet Russia didn't defend Donbas but invaded all of Ukraine. They had troops outside of Kiev before being fought back.
If it was a negotiated withdrawal, Russian troops would not have been killed by Ukraine. Russian troops would have left before being forced to withdraw.
Which is beside the point that their attempt to take Kiev makes your claim that it was defensive a lie.
???
How did you take that from anything I said
I had the above post removed for 'misinformation': here's a source:
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/05/5/7344206/
Literally 1984 censorship if you're pretending otherwise
Right, next the native americans will take the US back because historically it's theirs? Russia started a war, stop looking for excuses to cope.
That's a weird comparison, given that Russia is and has always been a genocidal empire. A pertinent example is the renewed persecution of the Crimean Tatars under the present russian occupation.
that would be ideal, fuck the united states
More appropriately, fuck Russia.
Wow so brave have an upvote and reddit gold
Before the United States the indigenous people had the Iroquois Confederation. It was a primary model for the founders of the United States. Not sure if or how native repossession changes modern geopolitics but it's a fun idea.