I'm not particularly happy with it, but I don't loathe it. There's a difference between being unhappy with your own country and holding water for dodgy places like China and Russia.

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Russia and China are in completely different domains imo.

At least China is trying to do some good in the world (not out of the goodness of their own hearts, but because they want to build China's China for cheap labour... And that's ok).

[–] jeena@jemmy.jeena.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

China doesn't have cheap labor anymore, they have a aging population and no next generation taking over.

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

That's why they need Africa lol

[–] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, in not arguing that China haven't contributed to the world economy and helped us get access to cheap tech and consumer good, but I think it's fair to criticise their approach to human rights.

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

For sure. Those problems are domestic, though, so to some degree it is a little hypocritical of us given the rather poor track record of North Americans and indigenous peoples.

As a Canadian, I do feel like me criticizing China for its treatment of some indigenous groups would be rather hypocritical given how Canada treated the First Nations people (the last residential school closed in 1997).

[–] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No country has a perfect history, go back far enough and we all have dark periods in how we've treated people. However that shouldn't mean we can criticise countries who are still doing so now in what's supposed to be a more progressive and enlightened world.

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's fair, but it just feels wrong to be criticizing other countries when we aren't even doing enough for those who suffered in our own countries. It's hypocritical.

[–] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm British, we don't really have an indigenous treatment issue. We exported that to you guys, lol.

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

lol very true

[–] APassenger@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

It's only hypocritical if you approve of it in Canada.

If we all stay silent on topics because our individual countries have deeply problematic pasts, then we all stay silent.

We can be vocal about it at home and abroad.