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You may have noticed a distinct lack of return2ozma. This is due to their admitting, in a public comment, that their engagement here is in bad faith:

I'm sure there will be questions, let me see if I can address the most obvious ones:

  1. Can I still post negative stuff about Biden?

Absolutely! We have zero interest in running an echo chamber. However, if ALL you're posting is negative, you may want to re-think your priorities. You get out of the world what you put into it and all that.

  1. Why now?

Presumption of innocence. It may be my own fault, but I do try to think the best of people, and even though they were posting negative articles, they weren't necessarily WRONG. Biden's poll numbers, particularly in minority demographics ARE in the shitter. They are starting to get better, but he still has a hell of a hill to climb.

  1. Why a 30 day temp ban and not a permanent ban?

The articles return2ozma shared weren't bad, faked, or from some wing-nut bias site like "beforeitsnews.com", they were legitimate articles from established and respected news agencies, pointing out the valid problems Biden faces.

The problem was ONLY posting the negatives, over and over and then openly admitting that dishonest enagement is their purpose.

Had they all been bullshit articles? It would not have taken anywhere near this much time to lay the ban and it would have been permanent.

30 days seems enough time for them to re-think their strategery and come back to engage honestly.

tl;dr - https://youtu.be/C6BYzLIqKB8#t=7s

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[–] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Do you have a problem with reading comprehension? This was all explained already. They were spamming the community with agenda-based news. No one suggested they share news they disagree with.

And if you check the mod logs, not ALL of what they shared was legitimate.

They were rightfully banned. And I’d prefer it permanent, but it’s still a step in the right direction. Not arguing this with you further.

[–] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And if you check the mod logs, not ALL of what they shared was legitimate.

you know what, fair point. of course, that's sort of what mods are for, and i think that the power to decide which sources are legitimate is itself the power to propagandize.

[–] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Look at that… a bad-faith argument! Who could have exp-

I could have.

[–] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

why would you lie about something like this?

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 5 months ago

Because they want the attention

[–] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

your accusation of bad faith is, itself, bad faith.

[–] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee -3 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

somehow, i think you were lying the first 3 times

[–] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee -4 points 5 months ago
[–] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They were spamming the community with agenda-based news.

each of their posts was in compliance with the rules

[–] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I’m not sorry you’re upset by this. I’m not going to argue it further. The right thing was done, and you’re mad. That’s not my problem.

[–] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The right thing was done, and you’re mad.

the wrong thing was done. i'm not mad. i just know what injustice is.

[–] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee -3 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

repeating it doesn't make it true.

[–] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago

i thought you were done.

[–] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

i thought you were done already. is it this time for real?

[–] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago (3 children)

So you’re admittedly trolling? You know, most people know exactly what to do when someone tells them they’re not arguing with them any further.

The onus is on you to be mature enough to back off. But I see you subscribe to schoolyard rules of-

“I don’t care if you are done arguing! I have to have the last word!”

Block you now.

[–] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So you’re admittedly trolling?

i'm not. i thought you were done.

[–] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee -3 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

how many times have you actually blocked me though?

[–] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

if you say you are going to walk away, you should just keep your word.

[–] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee -1 points 5 months ago
[–] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago

Block you now.

oh, thank god.