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Democrats decry Biden executive order turning away some asylum seekers | US-Mexico border
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USA doesn't control the source of the problem, which are random-ass civil wars that occur in Central America or South America.
What we do control are the legal limits of accepting immigrants. But remember that while the jobs market can likely accept more bodies, our housing market doesn't have enough housing for a population boom.
Immigration law exists so that we can better plan jobs/housing/etc. etc. it's a good thing in the abstract to control, no matter how sad the stories are of the people we turn away.
That being said: I'm overall supportive of more immigrants in this economy. Jobs are a major factor and it's really 'Just Housing's that's a practical consideration. If we can get Congress + States to pass housing starts laws, then we can absolutely accept more immigrants in a way that'd benefit our country.
Interesting, if largely incorrect opinion.
The "Northern Triangle" migrants of 2018 (El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras) had nothing to do with any US Policy. We had to deal with the major wave of immigrants anyway. https://sgp.fas.org/crs/row/IF11151.pdf
Today's wave of migrants is the 2024 ongoing collapse of Venezuela. Which is everything to do with shitty Venezuelan politics, and again nothing to do with the USA.
I'm well aware of Banana Republics of decades ago. But its rather stupid to blame everything on the USA when the recent migrant wave has more to do with local issues like MS-13 (2018 era), or the handoff of Hugo Chávez to Nicolás Maduro (Venezuela).
I don't think I wanna ask the US "congressional research service" about the effects of US imperialism. Something tells me they have a bias, but I can't quite put my finger on why.
And bullshit from Central American nationalists who have dumbass conspiracy theories about CIA boogiemen aren't exactly a good source of information either. I know that Venezuela wants to blame everyone else for their problems, but their arguments don't even pass the barest of muster.
We all know what the USA was focused on in the last 30 years. The bulk of US effort was in Afghanistan, Iraq/Syria, with more recent focus on Ukraine, China, and now Israel.
Blaming the USA for random ass shit that happens in I dunno, Venezuela's shitty socialist takeover of their energy grid (leading into large-scale blackouts) and trying to tie US Policy to that is... well... a conspiracy theory. Sure, nationalists from beyond our southern border can believe whatever the fuck they want, but I'll call them out on the bullshit. Venezuela fucked their own country over, and we're doing those migrants a favor by letting them in.
I'm happy for us to do our duty to take in those who qualify for sanctuary, or otherwise need such assistance. But USA has other concerns that we still need to balance against that (such as our housing shortage, that'd be complicated with more migrants). I think we can make it work in any case but its not going to be easy (or politically easy at that to even decide on a path forward).
In any case, letting in a bunch of US haters would be against my policy anyway. There's too many people in line as it is, so if they don't want to accept the USA's side of the story, they can just stay out of our country.
What's going on in the world and what you choose to pay attention to are two very different things.
https://venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/14263/
Lulz. You mean led to the large scale blackouts of an energy rich / oil rich nation. Amirite?
That's a laughably inaccurate document you've got there. Clearly socialist / Marxist propaganda. But lets say, hypothetically, that you took away the electrical networks from the people who knew how to run them... directly leading to widespread power outages within a year, leading to a loss of industry and migrant waves to escape the country.
And you want to blame the USA for this? While also rewarding those who made such dumbass moves in their country?
LOL. Do you actually think the US experience with privately run electrical grids are well run?
Your grasp of the dynamics that impacted Venezuela are driven entirely by simplistic propaganda. I'm not taking on the task of educating you while you fight with nonsense at every turn. I've led a horses ass to water. If the ass shits in it, that's just what asses do.
With all due respect, that's 7+ million migrants who are leaving Venezuela who very much disagrees with your opinion on that subject.
Yes. Our electrical grid is better than Venezuela. And if you really want to choose this hill to die on, be my guest. But this is really weird for you to get a hard on to the marxist/socialist utopia that is Venezuela. Methinks you'll have a better job talking about other locations of the world and taking your L here before you get too wrapped up in the peculiarities of this debate.
That's fine. My goal here is to demonstrate that Venezuela's system is so shit its causing a massive migration wave to come to the USA.
We need to be aware of the migrant population's situation and understand their story. Each migrant wave is different. In the next 4+ years, whenever the next migrant wave comes, it will be a new story from a new country. If you want to get caught up in the peculiarities of Marxist Leninist theories of these failed countries, be my guest. Or... not get caught up. Whatever you want, its fine.
We got migrants to worry about. So all that's off topic anyway. But I'm generally willing to bet against the country that all these migrants are leaving from.