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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 146 points 5 months ago (7 children)

lack of local accounting means its no longer your operating system, youre now using a perpetually required service from microsoft.

the walled garden is putting the last bricks in place. hope all you windows fans are ...happy... asking ~~apple~~ microsoft for permission to use your own hardware.

[–] testman@lemmy.ml 126 points 5 months ago (3 children)
[–] OminousOrange@lemmy.ca 37 points 5 months ago

"Our Computer"

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] TheMalWare@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 months ago

We're all MS personnel

[–] hlqxz@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago

This is awfully deep. We live in a society.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 32 points 5 months ago (3 children)

It's a real shame. I guess I'll be running Linux now.

[–] Onihikage@beehaw.org 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I switched to Bazzite not long after the Recall AI announcement, shrinking my Windows partition to leave it for just VR stuff which currently doesn't work well outside of Windows, at least on my system. It's pretty great! Not perfect, but the problems I have on Bazzite are similar enough in quantity and degree to problems I had on Windows that I've basically switched out one set of weird OS quirks for another. The big difference is now I don't have to think about the OS being disrespectful corporate spyware.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That seems like a solid OS. It's there an Ubuntu based variant?

[–] Onihikage@beehaw.org 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not that I know of; Bazzite is completely based on Fedora Atomic Desktops, which are an immutable type of distro that makes the core OS a read-only image that all gets updated separately from system apps. The Ubuntu equivalent of Fedora Atomic Desktops is Ubuntu Core, but I don't know if Bazzite has a Ubuntu Core-based equivalent. Bazzite is released by a group called Universal Blue, which makes prepackaged OS builds based on Fedora Atomic Desktops, with particular focus areas. Bazzite focuses on including all gaming-related tweaks, apps, configs, and optimizations out of the box, Aurora focuses on general desktop PC functionality, and Bluefin focuses on productivity, but in the end they're all Atomic/Immutable distros based on Fedora. It's worth poking through it all and picking one that best suits your needs.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What parts of the immutable OS are read only? Like filesystem wise? I'm not sure I really get it.

[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

The basic of immutable desktops is that every system file (what's outside your home directory (folder) ) is readonly, you can install apps through the app store.

But I'd say Linux mint (a Non-immutable) distro is what you should try first, because it's more user-friendly and easier to get help for.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Oh I've been using Linux for over 20 years. That's not an issue.

I have a better idea now of what an immutable distro is thanks to your explanation. I don't know if that's what I would want after all.

I think I prefer the freedom of being able to modify my system files and configs as I need to customize my system as I see fit, even if it meansb potentially breaking something.

[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 months ago

You can edit system files with layering, but it's not as straightforward

Same here. I'll pirate the security updates for the next 3 years and then switch. Fuck Windows 11 and fuck Microsoft.

[–] exscape@kbin.social 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You can still block it easily with the command prompt (Shift+F10 during the install) as mentioned. But don't let that stop you from switching to Linux if you feel like it.

[–] chahk@beehaw.org 2 points 5 months ago

Didn't they block the Shift-F10 workaround in 24H2?

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 31 points 5 months ago

Wait, a proprietary OS is someone else's computer?

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 8 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Apple doesn't require you to make an Apple ID to use a Mac lol

[–] tektite 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

But apparently you DO need an Apple ID to access an Apple Notes file that was shared to your Android by your crazy ex who doesn't know that without an iPhone you won't be able to read their undoubtedly unhinged, rambling guilt trip. Thanks Apple!

[–] ezmac@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Hate it when that happens

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Something tells me that could easily change.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Sure it could, but I think Apple makes so much on overcharging for the machine itself they don't need to be so aggressive over data collection just logically.

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Sadly I think they have to aim to do both, to make the most money as a publically traded company.

Last I heard Apple was protecting it's users from Facebook collecting their data.. by being the ones who collect it instead. Maybe that not quite right as I don't listen to news on Apple (outside of their opposition to right to repair).

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com -4 points 5 months ago

its a xmas miracle

[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

We would have that freedom with Android too if those stupid banking apps stopped trying to dictate what you can run on your hardware & Google giving them more features to do so.

[–] xilona@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago

This☝️person knows what we are talking about!

[–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 2 points 5 months ago

The Cask of Amontillado?