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I think I’ve settled on the latter. Disagreement is maybe best communicated by the absence of an upvote? And downvotes work best when they signal something that is just off base, and while not reportable, is not appreciated at a broad cultural level.

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[–] positiveWHAT@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is why the Beehaw way is a good approach. No downvotes only upvotes. Then people actually have to tell why they disagree.

[–] socsa@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Eh I still like downvotes and find myself just not enjoying beehaw as much without them. I mostly just don't get the moral panic over having a disagree button more than anything.

[–] positiveWHAT@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Moral panic? What? It's about healthy community dialogue and slightly how downvotes impacts the psyche.
If someone tells you why they dislike something you like, you're not doing anyone a favor by downvoting it.

[–] socsa@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You are ignoring how trolls operate in reality though. THey explicitly use "just having an opinion" as cover for shitting up a forum. Look up "sealioning."

But again, this is my opinion. People are far too concerned about the downvote button. And the fact that the above, completely respectful but seemingly controversial opinion already has downvotes kind of proves my point.

[–] positiveWHAT@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It would be useful if people actually used it to burrow trolls, sealions and irrelevant comments as intended, but as I've seen people can't be trusted with that because as you say: It becomes a "disagree" instead, that targets everything that people disagree with. It gets inane on political topics where useless comments for the right tribe gets immensely upvoted. "Covfefe" Yes, very informative. There could be alternate vote for agreement, funny, or troll mark.

[–] sweetviolentblush@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There could be alternate vote for agreement, funny, or troll mark.

Yeah I like this, definitely a troll button next to the vote buttons would be really useful for users to self-moderate comments

[–] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hmm, that is a good point. I really wish Beehaw would refederate with SJW so we could benefit from their activity and experience more. I don't agree with every decision they make but they certainly have insightful takes at times

[–] socsa@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This hasn't been my experience at all. Especially in lemmy.ml worldnews threads which get constantly brigaded by tankies.

Edit - it seems I replied to the wrong comment

[–] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I dont use that community so I haven't seen that.

Maybe try worldnews@sh.itjust.works instead.

Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn't work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !worldnews@sh.itjust.works

[–] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think you meant something else, that's a person not a community. Perhaps !worldnews@sh.itjust.works wait i thought the ! Was necessary now I'm confused augh

[–] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I used a hyperlink. Looks like this without the space (_)

[worldnews@sh.itjust.works]_(https://sh.itjust.works/c/worldnews)

It's definitely a community

[–] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Oh I assumed it was one guy because it's the same bot spamming those

Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn't work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !worldnews@sh.itjust.works