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Newsmax host Carl Higbie went on a tirade on Friday after former President Donald Trump was convicted by a Manhattan jury the day before.

The presumptive Republican presidential nominee was found guilty on all 34 counts of falsifying business records to conceal hush money payments to cover up extramarital affairs. Trump was concerned the affairs would come to light and harm his presidential aspirations. The Republican freakout has been swift if not predictable. Despite their outrage and indignation, some conservatives insist that being a convicted felon will help Trump’s chances of returning to the White House in November’s election.

During Friday’s edition of Frontline on Newsmax, Higbie demanded congressional Republicans drop everything and go after those involved in Trump’s prosecution.

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[–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 5 months ago (2 children)

This felon doesn't have any capacity for contrition. He genuinely believes he is above the law. It's unfathomable to him that he is being held to account.

There is no doubt in my mind that were he not a former president, a judge would lock him up. Contrition is an important component of the legal system. Felon's need to understand that their behavior is unacceptable.

I wonder if a judge could make him bend the knee. "Acknowledge your wrong doing and you don't need to go to jail."

[–] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

He can't. He's sick , narcissism. He should have professional help trying to fix this. But at his age...

[–] JudahBenHur@lemm.ee 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

people with narcissistic personality disorder very, very rarely go to therapy. its their spouses, kids and employees that come to therapy. not their friends, though, because they do not exist.

[–] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, because you would have to be able to recognize the problem, which a narcissist per definition is unable to.

[–] JudahBenHur@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago

well, they're perfect, its the world thats unfair

[–] skulblaka@startrek.website 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Prison is ostensibly for either prevention of crime or rehabilitation of criminals (ignoring the American for profit prison system for a moment). This one has proven himself willing to perform crime despite the threat of prison, and has proven himself unwilling to rehabilitate. As you said, proven no capacity for contrition.

Therefore, the stated reason for prison would have next to no effect on this prisoner. He will not rehabilitate and has proven himself undeterred by threat of punishment. Ergo, sounds like an excellent target for the death penalty, in fact that sounds like the exact sort of person the death penalty was originally instated for. People too dangerous to be left alive that refuse to change their ways.

Just saying, all the pieces fit.

[–] timmy_dean_sausage@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

We don't sentence people based on our feelings about them because it's impossible to do so in an objective, fair way across all courts. This man has enjoyed an absurd level of luxury/freedoms throughout his life, relative to just about everyone else. Let him rot in prison for the rest of his life. I hope he lives to 100 in there.

[–] skulblaka@startrek.website 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

None of that involved my feelings about him, only facts about how he has acted under his own power. If we were basing this on my feelings about him we'd have been rid of him in 2015. It is a fact that he will perform crimes constantly and it is a fact that he has not shown a shred of remorse or reconciliation even once, ever.

[–] timmy_dean_sausage@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

I agree with you that he's a serial criminal. I don't agree that he should be given the death penalty, unless he's found guilty of a crime that would warrant that punishment.