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[–] nefonous@lemmy.world 44 points 5 months ago (9 children)

I'm still waiting the rest of the world to find out that there are so many types of pizza with no cheese

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 24 points 5 months ago (3 children)
[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 40 points 5 months ago

They have no cheese so no

[–] nefonous@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Plenty of them are, but of course depends on taste. One of the most common and classic pizza is without cheese (marinara). So plenty of people like it

[–] DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Yes. Cheese can be overpowering for more subtle toppings, it's also fairly high in salt. You don't really notice the salt, unless you mix it with other topping that are also salty.

BBQ sauce with jalapeno and nutritional yeast is pretty good. The nutritional yeast give that cheese-like funk without the salt combining with the jalapeno, or counteracting the sweet of the bbq sauce.

Also, the cheese also ruins some flavours like kimchi, bruschetta, or chimichurri.

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Kimchi? What the everloving fuck are you on about? Jesus Christ.

[–] DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 months ago

A little spice, a little tang, a little vinegar, and a decent amount of garlic.

If the sauce is a little on the sweet side, you have your major flavour profiles to balance against the starch of the bread. And any tomato sauce gives it a little bit of a holopchi vibe.
It's nearly perfection.

[–] androogee@midwest.social -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Microbes aren't a topping what the fuck

[–] DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Nutritional yeast is a flaky powder you sprinkle on after cooking, similar to another product of microbes often added to a cooked pizza; parmesan cheese.

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

It tastes like parmesan smells.

[–] apocalypticat@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago (4 children)

That's just bread. Pizza is bread topped with sauce and cheese, end of discussion.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not according to the Italians. You'd be astonished at how unimportant they consider cheese as a topping. It's the bread and the sauce that matter. Everything else is a garnish.

Like sandwich, pizza has come to mean a lot of different things. New York style pizza and Chicago style pizza are absolutely not the same thing, but they're both still pizza.

[–] monsterpiece42@reddthat.com 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I share the opinion that pizza is bread with sauce and cheese.

However, I am open to change my mind because there is always room for more pizza in my life. What's everyone's favorite non-cheese pizzas?

[–] DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 months ago

I've had pizza with spaghetti squash instead of cheese. It was surprisingly good, and much more filling than normal pizza.

[–] BowtiesAreCool@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Where does pizza fall in sandwich theory?

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Slovene@feddit.nl 5 points 5 months ago

Only the Chicago deep dish pizza.

[–] Reminds_Me_Of_Reddit@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Open face sandwich

[–] Slovene@feddit.nl 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Frigid@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

No friend, you're thinking of tostada

[–] nefonous@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (3 children)

If your pizza is same as bread then you're eating terrible pizza, I'm sorry

[–] MadBob@feddit.nl 6 points 5 months ago

If your pizza is same as bread

Pizza is a type of flatbread! Look it up in your encyclopaedia of choice.

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 months ago

If your bread isn't good enough to be pizza dough, then you're eating terrible bread. I'm sorry.

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's a type of flat bread. It's not sandwich bread.

[–] nefonous@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Pizza and bread have different preparations, cooking, and sometimes they are even made with different ingredients. Certainly you wouldn't say pasta is bread too only because it's made with flour and water, for example

[–] olutukko@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

pizza is just bread, you don't need cheese, end of discussion. there's marinara for example

[–] psoul@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

I’d rather have pizza with no cheese than pizza with no red sauce but again, it’s like saying I’d rather have no green cones than no red cones in my eyes. Having both adds and extra dimension.

[–] oxideseven@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] nefonous@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

In Italy cheese is absolutely not required, even if Margherita is the most common base so most pizzas have cheese. Even so, there are many types of pizza with no cheese, and many others with no tomato.

It's also very common to see pizza farcita, which you can imagine as a pizza sandwich. For example a very common one is "pizza e mortazza" in Rome, which is a pure puzza with no topping but filled with mortadella (a type of ham). But various kinds of fillings are possible

Another example would be focaccia, most of them don't have any cheese at all.

There is even sweet pizza with no cheese, for example pizza with Nutella

[–] MudSkipperKisser@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Yes, please. Expose yourselves. It is a fate most gruesome that awaits the cheese deniers

[–] nefonous@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

I explained more in detail in another comment here, but to be short I can list some like pizza farcita, focaccia, marinara etc

[–] Slovene@feddit.nl 1 points 5 months ago

Blessed are the cheesemakers.

[–] Skates@feddit.nl 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What is this, Theseus' pizza? How many of the traditional ingredients can you replace and still consider it a pizza?

[–] nefonous@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What defines something as pizza is the base, not the toppings. Of course there are some common and more classic toppings, but those include also no cheese pizzas

[–] Skates@feddit.nl 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

The base is bread. The pizza is defined as the base + cheese + tomato sauce + various toppings.

a dish of Italian origin, consisting of a flat round base of dough baked with a topping of tomatoes and cheese, typically with added meat, fish, or vegetables.

Source: the dictionary.

[–] nefonous@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

The base is not bread. Even your definition doesn't call it bread. It's pizza. And a random American dictionary is hardly a source.

Also, pizza is older than tomato in Europe...

Here's an Italian dictionary, if talking with an Italian wasn't enough

https://www.treccani.it/vocabolario/pizza/

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world -3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Lol, no there aren't. Do you mean vegan cheese?

[–] olutukko@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

marinara is one of the best pizza I've tried. can't come up with other examples. but not everyone thinks cheese is somehow necessary

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world -3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yes. Well not everyone can be right about everything. Cheese is one of exactly 3 critical ingredients for what we call Pizza.

[–] olutukko@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

thanks america, but you bread is like bun. I don't take you guys seriously with food