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[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 40 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Good luck trying to get conservatives to not vote for a fascist dictator wannabe

[–] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)
[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Young Democrats are mostly progressives and don’t like it when you call them liberals. But yes, their votes for Biden are what will keep Trump out of office.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

don’t like it when you call them liberals

They don't? That's weird, I've never heard of that

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

There are many progressives on Lemmy that love to identify wedge issues for no reason other than to designate the difference between progressives and liberals. I’m all about being on one team against the right, but I was trying to be respectful of those who don’t want to be mislabeled.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Progressive and liberal are two very different things. Fox News and the US political discourse/Overton Window has classified anything left of the GOP as "liberal," but in reality it means "center right."

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

I have come to the conclusion over the last few months based on things people have said they expect Biden to do that they aren't worried about a presidential candidate who says he will be a dictator because they think that presidents are already dictators.

[–] refalo@programming.dev 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

they do not represent any sort of majority and wouldn't be the swing in any vote.

[–] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

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[–] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee -5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Those aren’t liberals. They’re the far left. And most of them would be just fine to suffer under Trump instead of doing the actual work to it takes to change the system in the four years they have between the presidential elections.

[–] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

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[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That sure is a fine straw man you built yourself there, mighty fine.

[–] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee -3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You probably want to learn what a straw man is before you use it in a sentence.

[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

It's when a person sets up and then attacks a position that is not actually being debated. Which is exactly what you did. Your lacking the ability to see it isn't a me problem, it's a you problem.

[–] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I’m perfectly within the wheelhouse of the discussion. So there’s no setting up of a position that isn’t being debated. Liberals and the definition of- is the subject. I simply corrected something that in my opinion, was incorrect.

That you dislike my opinion in the matter, doesn’t mean you get to accuse me of things I’m not doing. Especially when you come back with a definition that doesn’t fit my actions even remotely.