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"bUt ThiNk oF thE cHildrEn!!1!1" is not an excuse for surveillance
"Fuck the children" is exactly the vibe I'm getting from this thread. They'll have a good life being raised by drug addicts and then sold to some human trafficker.
drugs are much more complex than "doing them is bad" and banning encrypted messanging apps and implementing surveillance does very little in terms of capturing pedos, while people who use them for legitamate reasons are screwed over
Scroll up and find the part where I said to ban encrypted messaging. You'll find the following sentence instead "spying is bad".
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Keep digging ;)
You do seem like someone that wishes they were an autocrat that could just get rid of people they don't like.
I believe in true freedom of speech (not the american bastardized version of it).
You'd be fine.
As long as you were not using drugs.
So 'I'd be fine' if you really were a dictator? Because you'd 'let me' have freedom of speech? lol- you're definitely letting your little power fantasies slip through there ;)
You didn't say it, yes. But established survaillance can be countered by encrypted messanging apps, so the next logical step is to ban them. In fact, the US has been trying to do so for a long time now and the same excuse is always given - "think of the children". There's a video by Louis Rossmann and another one by Mental Outlaw, both going into detail about why this is just that, an excuse. Survaillance isn't normal and should not be normalised.
America, Smart. Pick one.
Every country has survaillance, US just makes the most noise with laws being passed. It's the principle that matters - once other countries see that a certain law allows them to monitor people more closely, they'll want to pass their version of that law. Australia is basically a Police State, UK also has very privacy-invasive laws.
Weird, only China gets called out for it by American media.
I mean, no suprise there, every country calls out every other country on that. It's only OK for the American goverment agencies to spy on Americans.
Perhaps you might consider asking what we ought to do instead of continuing the failed war on drugs?