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The system is shit, but you can't force people to participate in it's perpetuation.
"We will only throw some people into a wood chipper." is not a great platform and I understand those who dont want to be complicit.
The American political system is not changed in the ballot box.
And by refusing to be 'complicit', they are instead complicit in "We will throw as many people as we can into a wood chipper".
Not exactly morally praiseworthy.
Not changed for the better, maybe. But it absolutely will be changed for the worse at the ballot box. Forgive me for not being excited for fascism.
You know who has the power not to toss people into the wood chipper? President of the United States Joe Biden.
And the fact that currently he prefers to have many people being thrown into the wood chipper instead of not throwing some people in himself, should make you very worried about how his policies will look like, when he has no reelection to work for.
Ah, good, you've convinced me, I will work towards seeing the fascist who has pledged to never leave office and throw as many people in the wood chipper as possible win.
Well you are working very hard for that. Instead of holding Biden accountable but offering to vote, if he stops being a genocide supporter who runs interment camps at the border and builds the wall for Trump, you divide the people so they don't take power and get fucked by whoever wins in the end. And with this you are demotivating people to vote in the first place, helping Trump the most.
Congratulations. The American Elites have successfully played you, to do their bidding.
Lol what a shit take.
Don't try to blame other people for your choices and actions. If you want to live in a Trump America, don't vote for Biden. Just remember, it was your choice and not something "Corporate elites" made you do.
And again you blame yourself and the people, while simply accepting that the choice offered should be between a genocidal corrupt geriatric and a fascist corrupt geriatric.
You do exactly what i meant. You gaslight yourself so the elites can keep making bank, while you decide between dinner or rent.
Imagine literally working towards a Trump victory and thinking you're the one who has finally thrown off the Dastardly Manipulations of the Elite(tm).
This comment makes me think you would literally slam your dick in a door and then be surprised when the pain of that sets in.
What country do you live in? I mean, what’s it like there?
Bad, but unfortunately we are not armed as well.
We do have more than two parties though.
Fair enough.
I think it’s fascinating you wrote “in” the ballot box.
Not to mention, the system is literally changed first and foremost by the elections. But sure, biden bad, let the orange chips fall where they may and so on.
If you are in fact able to vote in the US presidential election, I hope you’ll do it and support all the downballot candidates as well.
Oh I'm sorry I made a tiny error in spelling.
You're very welcome to continue this conversation in my native German.
Ich wünschte, ich könnte Deutsch sprechen. Aber wenn ich könnte, würde ich mich wahrscheinlich nicht zum deutschen politischen System äußern, nur weil ich erstens nichts darüber weiß und zweitens sowieso nicht dort lebe?
How much German election content do you get injected involuntarily into all your news feeds for two years every four years?
And the American election impacts the entire world like no other single national election does. The US influence through culture, trade and interventionism is felt throughout the entire world.
So yeah, I have opinions on that.
Ein fairer Punkt, denke ich. Aber wir schwimmen bereits in Leuten, die Trump helfen, es wäre besser, wenn wir Trump keine Hilfe von Leuten geben würden, die nicht einmal wählen können. Wie die russischen Trollfarmen. Ich wäre daran interessiert, eine deutsche Sicht auf die Wahl zu sehen, aber das ist ein freiwilliges Interesse, denke ich.
I truly hope people aren't stupid enough to be convinced by this "trickle down economics"-type bullshit