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I find it to be a naive viewpoint because if American influence contracts that power vacuum will be filled by authoritarian nations like China and Russia. If anyone thinks groups like Wagner are better for places like Africa than the US has been I think they’re lying to themselves. Not even saying the US hasn’t exploited and manipulated much of the world, it’s just that things can always get worse.
Yeah. It depends what country you're in, but I think a lot of what the US does on the world stage is just a function of what happens when you have a giant concentration of money and military power all in one place, and getting rid of the US will make things exponentially worse because even the flimsy little democratic guard rails on the US government are better than anything else that's currently on offer.
I think the solution is to work on strengthening the guard rails, instead of assuming that if we just reduce the power of the US government because it does terrible things (which, it does), the world will all of a sudden become a nice or fair place in its absence.