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[–] filister@lemmy.world 71 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

And this is creating a very dangerous precedent, where the US government shows complete disrespect of international law and provides Israel with this so-called feeling of utter impunity.

I understand that Biden should please his donors, but isn't there a single candidate that thinks more about the humans than for the money.

And that's why ladies and gentlemen, we the plebes outside the US don't like the US state, because they always think they are above the law and act as such. Law should apply to everyone equally, no matter what their nationality or how fat their bank account is. Deliberately undermining the law should be punishable, and these people should seriously be ashamed of themselves by thinking they are the only one who can define what's right and wrong!

[–] livus@kbin.social 40 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

dangerous precedent, where the US government shows complete disrespect of international law

With all due respect the US has been in open contempt of international law for the past 20+ years.

Guantanamo for example is completely illegal.

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Probably closer to 130 years starting with their invasion of Hawaii and then involvement in coups in South America and the Middle East.

[–] n2burns@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm not too familiar with historic international law, but most of the ones in modern use are only decades old. So, while the invasion of Hawaii may be immoral and may have broken international norms, I'm not sure if it's consider to have broken "International Law".

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago

The concept of sovereign states is generally considered to be established in the Peace of Westphalia in 1648. Of course the US did not exist at the time but it was a concept established as International Law before it was founded. Of course most treaties of this kind weren't signed by nearly the same percentage of nations they are today.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 25 points 5 months ago (2 children)

This isn’t simply a matter of Biden pleasing his donors, nor is it really about Biden in particular. This is the liberal international order working as designed, namely that the US makes the rules and orders everyone else around. Israel is a settler-colonial project of the Western imperial core, and it has been the US’ unsinkable aircraft carrier in West Asia for generations. As Biden has said throughout his career, “were there not an Israel, the United States of America would have to invent an Israel to protect her interest in the region.” The Hague Invasion Act has been on the books for over 20 years, so this is nothing new and has always been bipartisan.

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 29 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The Hague Invasion Act has been on the books for over 20 years, so this is nothing new and has always been bipartisan.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] hglman@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago

I don't bc America isn't a good place.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago

Nah democrats don't block movement to the left, they move further right.

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 months ago

International law isn't real, never has been, and never will be until nation-state economic interests, or better yet, leaders of those states are arrested for violation.